Does David Haye deserve another Klitschko payday?

shaunster101 · Nov 24, 2011

So the guy you lot are claiming is the best heavyweight in the world (Wlad) was struggling to land his supposed ATG jab on Haye and landed about 5 right hands through 12 rounds, but Helenius is going to do better?

Does this mean Helenius is a more accurate puncher than Wlad?

Too slick, too black, too much swag. Haye all day

AnotherFan · Nov 24, 2011

Joe_MacKenzie said: ↑

Many people such as Manny Steward and Dan Rafael have said that David Haye does not deserve the fight with Vitali on March 3.

They say that after Haye's pathetic effort against Wladimir, after all his trash talk and his lame "toe" excuse, he should have to fight and defeat another heavyweight contender before being given this opportunity.

But Haye says it's either a Klitshko fight or retirement for him, because by fighting any other heavyweight would not have a good payday. The Klitschkos are big draws in Germany regardless of who they fight, and Haye cannot draw flies even in the UK anymore after his weak effort against Wlad.

I agree with Steward and Rafael, I think Vitali should fight someone else. Let Haye earn his second Klitschko payday by first beating another top 15 heavyweight. He's had his chance, there are others who are more deserving.
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Haye is the most dangerous opponent out there for Vitali.

Vitali is the most dangerous opponent out there for Haye.

So what is there to ***** about? Fairness? Boxing is about entertainemnt and money, not justice.

nick_1204 · Nov 24, 2011

Does he deserve another pay day?

Does it even matter?

How many world title fights have there been in the last 5 years were BOTH fighters actually deserved to be in there?

It doesnt matter anymore. No ammount of bitching will ever change it because money talks and the people who run the sport want more and more of it.

zfc · Nov 24, 2011

Joe_MacKenzie said: ↑

Many people such as Manny Steward and Dan Rafael have said that David Haye does not deserve the fight with Vitali on March 3.

They say that after Haye's pathetic effort against Wladimir, after all his trash talk and his lame "toe" excuse, he should have to fight and defeat another heavyweight contender before being given this opportunity.

But Haye says it's either a Klitshko fight or retirement for him, because by fighting any other heavyweight would not have a good payday. The Klitschkos are big draws in Germany regardless of who they fight, and Haye cannot draw flies even in the UK anymore after his weak effort against Wlad.

I agree with Steward and Rafael, I think Vitali should fight someone else. Let Haye earn his second Klitschko payday by first beating another top 15 heavyweight. He's had his chance, there are others who are more deserving.
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David Haye is retired and you still cannot stop talking about him

Of course he deserves the pay day he is the draw after all.

zfc · Nov 24, 2011

Joe_MacKenzie said: ↑

Many people such as Manny Steward and Dan Rafael have said that David Haye does not deserve the fight with Vitali on March 3.

They say that after Haye's pathetic effort against Wladimir, after all his trash talk and his lame "toe" excuse, he should have to fight and defeat another heavyweight contender before being given this opportunity.

But Haye says it's either a Klitshko fight or retirement for him, because by fighting any other heavyweight would not have a good payday. The Klitschkos are big draws in Germany regardless of who they fight, and Haye cannot draw flies even in the UK anymore after his weak effort against Wlad.

I agree with Steward and Rafael, I think Vitali should fight someone else. Let Haye earn his second Klitschko payday by first beating another top 15 heavyweight. He's had his chance, there are others who are more deserving.
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David Haye is retired and you still cannot stop talking about him

Of course he deserves the pay day he is the draw after all.

shaunster101 · Nov 24, 2011

So true it had to be said twice. Right on brother zfc :deal

JN43 · Nov 24, 2011

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Vidic · Nov 24, 2011

I like boxing. I am not a ****ing accountant. The best in the division should fight the best in the division, I dont give two ****s about the payday, if the people who SHOULD be fighting eachother, ARE fighting, then I'm happy.

frankenfrank · Nov 24, 2011

Absolutely yes based on his 1st performance vs Wlad and Wlad's fouls against him that possibly deprived him from a stoppage victory over Wlad .
Those who disagree explain y do u think that Wlad cheated against him .
Haye might not deserved his shot @ Wlad but he definitely deserves a rematch with him & a shot @ Vitali based on his performance .

Malden · Nov 24, 2011

Joe_MacKenzie said: ↑

Haye has two losses, one at heavyweight, while many other contenders are undefeated. More important, all of Haye's wins at HW have come over old boxers in their late 30s. He has never beaten a prime HW contender like Arreola, Chambers, or Povetkin.

And Haye is coming off a loss.

The EBU has the rule that a boxer cannot fight for the title coming off a loss (which is why Chisora had that fight before announcing his fight with Helenius).

Too bad the WBC wouldn't do the same, and not allow mediocre boxers like Haye coming off a loss to fight for a world title.
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Unless you are with Frank W (James DeGale) apparently :blood

shaunster101 · Nov 24, 2011

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I'm loving these (no homo)

itsa huge bitch · Nov 24, 2011

Cableaddict said: ↑

Well, who really knows?

It's definitely a fight I'd like to see. Haye-Vitali is just ridiculous, and Toe-Boy doesn't deserve it.
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i agree he dosnt deserve it,but hey dosnt mean we cant have fun talkin **** about him lol

itsa huge bitch · Nov 24, 2011

shaunster101 said: ↑

I'm loving these (no homo)
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so am i (homo)

Joe_MacKenzie · Nov 24, 2011

Cableaddict said: ↑

You're totally buying into the Haye BS machine.

Helenius is VERY quick when he needs to be. He seems like a lumbering oaf, but he's just conserving energy until that final blizkrieg attack. Haye would not be able to pot-shot, he'd just dance around like he did against Valuev.

Heck, even Valuev beat him, on my scorecard, and Helenius is much more dangerous.

Seriously, who has Haye beaten that makes you think he could defeat Robbe?
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Helenius is much stronger and more durable than Haye.

jordan1 · Nov 24, 2011

No, But the public is dumb enough to watch it.

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