Does Haye stand any chance against Vitali?

vitali is slower than wlad.but vitali is more awkward to hit due to his lean back style and long arms..he also owns a pretty decent and awkward jab of his own..i dont think he stops haye tho..the reason wlad didnt stop haye was the fact haye fought a defensive fight from the 1st round then went into super defence mode when he felt wlads power.i expect the exact thing if he meets vitali..the only question for me is can vitali handle hayes speed to not take any punches himself to win a wide ud like his baby bro or wil it be closer on the cards with haye actually landing on big vit..only time will tell

 

I think it is a double-edged sword. Sure, Wlad is more skilled and faster than Vitali.

But IMHO Vitalis chin negates Hayes greatest asset - his knockout power. And the power of Vitalis both hands, and his stamina (including a consistent punch output) plays into Hayes weaknesses.

So unless father time suddenly catches up with Vitali, I find it hard to see how Haye would be able to stop him or get a points win against him.

 

nice pic! :hey
where is hide?

 

wishful thinking


vitali will school haye, because he is a real born ighter who is not araid to throw punches, like wlad did against haye. also vitali can couterpunch, wlad not!

 

I give Haye a 15/20% Chance vs. Vitali. Maybe Vitali is getting older, slower and is deteriorating?! Not sure. That slip that sent Vitali crashing to the floor like a sack of coals in the Adamek fight was quite bizarre.

 

If Haye wins it would not be a case of Vitali getting old overnight. Vitali has looked slow and cumbersome for quite some time now, i'd even say hes there for the taking, its just a shame that the only guy who could really give him a fight (barring his own brother of course) is Haye, speaks volumes for the division really. Give Vitali movement and you may start to trouble him as Solis demonstrated until his knee gave out (skillful but a fat ****), we all know whether you like Haye or not, that he moves around the ring well and has decent headmovement for a heavyweight, its yet to be seen if Haye could add enough activity into his work to give Vitali fits, i think Vitali at this point in his career takes more chances and thus leaves more counter punch oppotunities. Not saying Haye would win but i dont think its outside of Haye ability to make this fight really interesting.:good

 

Wlad is mind-numbingly defensive, Vitali a little less so and he has issues with David. Could make for an exciting fight? Really the Wlad fight wasn't as bad as people make out, Haye went the distance whilst receiving negligible damage, the pre-fight hype is what cooked his goose. I envisage a Vitali stoppage around 9/10 after picking himself off the floor at some point. Redemption for David and a happy Klit clan:thumbsup

 

Well, he can pray for Vitali to get injured during the match, but that's about it.

 

Nice input and breakdown:roll:

 

It's closer to reality than yours, actually :yep Vitali will chase Haye around the ring and give Haye a beating. Unlike Wlad, he won't need to be super cautious for fear of getting KOed.

 

Since Vitali easily destroyed similar prime fighters Hide, Adamek, Kingpin and Solis so easily then it's fair to say Haye has close to zero chance and I think David knows this. Especially after his embarrassing one sided hammering to the weaker Klitschko brother.

 

Ive already stated that Vitali is the favourite. Vitali would be stupid to chase Haye around the ring and your niave to think he will:yep. Vitali will try and dominate from the centre of the ring keeping Haye at range, he wont risk injuring himself trying to pin down a fighter who bases everything around movement.

 

Haye only had a puncher's chance against Wlad, he doesn't even have that against Vitali. It would take a fluke injury for Haye to win.

Vitali is better at everything except speed.

Height: Vitali
Reach: Vitali
Experience: Vitali
Chin: Vitali
Skill: Vitali
Balance: Vitali
Heart: Vitali
Footwork: Vitali
Technique: Vitali
Distancing: Vitali
Timing: Vitali
Ring Generalship: Vitali
Mental Strength: Vitali
Stamina: Vitali
Workrate: Vitali
Ring IQ: Vitali
Physical power: Vitali
Speed: Haye

We also know that Vitali intimidates the **** out of Haye; the mental edge alone will **** over Haye's chances.

Just about every punch they throw is thrown better by Vitali, and his jab alone will probably win the fight. The only punch that Haye does that is "better" is his looping wide swings, and Vitali doesn't bother with such a shitty punch anyway.

Solis showed that someone can get in and land a couple of punches on Vitali if they have good timing and distancing - not enough to win, but enough to land something at least. Haye can possibly lunge in quickly and land occasionally. If he had the stamina or balls to try to keep that up for the whole fight then he might not get humiliated. But he has neither.

This will be a one sided stinker like Haye vs Wlad, with Haye refusing to engage and Vitali fighting the intelligent fight which will guarantee a win but not satisfy anyone.

 

There is only one way Haye can win, and that is an open fight with Vitali, but that's never going to happen because the Hayemake doesn't have the balls to do it

 

as wlad said here at the training camp presser when asked

question: "Can Haye beat your brother Vitali?"

Wlad: "Haye has NO CHANCE"