Does Haye stand any chance against Vitali?

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  1. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    I've always thought that Vitali would be the easier fight for Haye.

    Wlad vs Haye was a cautious, safety 1st fighter vs an athlete trying to counter-punch. There werent any fireworks & a lot of people were dissappointed.

    Vitali vs Haye is a very different prospect & a fight I think a fully-fit Haye can win, though it will take a career-best performance to do so.

    Vitali is unorthodox & awkward to fight but was never quick & is naturally getting slower & slower. Vitali has a great chin but Haye's held up against Wlad & I hope that gives Haye the confidence to take a few more risks. If Haye leaps in wildy like he did against Wlad then he'll be in trouble but Vitali will be there to hit.
     
  2. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Haye fought terrified against Valuev, who wasn't even a big puncher. You think he will suddenly get brave against a guy like Vitali?
     
  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    will haye stand with vitali? no.
    haye cant knockout vitali and thats his only chance he cant outbox vitali. he has no jab.
     
  4. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I noticed Wlad recently said that Vitali hits harder than him.
    I know the brothers like to always say the other is better but does he actually believe this bit himself?

    Vitali could be physicly stronger, i have never seen Vitali get handled in a clinch.
    But punching power wise almost everybody thinks Wlad hits harder.

    I do think almost every punch Vitali throws has bad intentions behind it where Wlad seems to alternate more.
     
  5. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For a long time now i've said I think Vitali is the easier of the brothers for him, and I still think that. I'll happily watch this fight as a fan of both fighters, with the expectation of a win for Vitali.
     
  6. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Not even this. Vitaly has a concrete chin. He is basically the perfect fighting machine.
     
  7. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    :lol: He fought 9 rounds with a broken hand against a much bigger guy who he wobbled in the 12th. Fully fit it might have been a different story.

    Vitali is more of an arm puncher than Wlad & his power is overrated. Wlad is quicker, hits harder & he couldnt hurt Haye, how is Vitali going to knock him out? Unless he lands a good counter I cant see it happening.
     
  8. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Height: Vitali - fair enough but Haye doesnt fight tall anyway
    Reach: Vitali - not a massive difference
    Experience: Vitali - no question
    Chin: Vitali - No question
    Skill: Vitali - no difference
    Balance: Haye - his legs wont give way if leans to one side.
    Heart: Haye - Vitali has arguably quit before where Haye has not.
    Footwork: Vitali - not a huge difference
    Technique: Vitali - agreed
    Distancing: Vitali - no question
    Timing: Even - Vitali looked sharp in the Adamek fight but Haye is very sharp no question
    Ring Generalship: Vitali - no doubt
    Mental Strength: even
    Stamina: Vitali - no question
    Workrate: Vitali - no question
    Ring IQ: Vitali - no question
    Physical power: Vitali
    Speed: Haye
    punching power: Haye
    athlectism: Haye
    Head movement: Haye
    least wear and tear: Haye
    Age: Haye
    reflexes: Haye
     
  9. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Vitali has a solid chin no doubt, but how many noted punchers have connected on that chin in the past 8 years since Lewis??? no not many if any.
     
  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you think haye hits harder than vitali??also hayes arms are nowhere near as long as vitalis lewis says its why he had so much trouble with him vitalis arms are 29 inches i think hayes are only 26 27
     
  11. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    20% chance tops.........I see Vitali punishing him...
     
  12. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I thought there was very little difference with reach something like 2 inches, maybe that was a mistake on my part:think. I do however believe Haye carries more power as he can get full leverage into his punches whilst this is something Vitali stuggles with due to his legs. Its not a criticism i just think time and injuries have not been kind to Vitali and he sacrifices power for activity.
     
  14. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  15. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad is known Vitali nut hugger. Vitali this and that.

    I mean you cant take anything serious what Wlad says about his hero Vitali.
    Damn Fanboy Wlad:patsch