How shot do you think Roy Jones is now after recent fights?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    bailey, Nov 26, 2011
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  2. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    No, he didn't. He was dominating that entire fight...Even the KD wasn't really about the punch...it was about his foot slipping. When do you see a guy get hit with a clean punch and not go down til a second later.
     
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  3. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    I agree with this part. Discounting the Byrd fight, De Valle was the first semi decent southpaw he faced. He looked much better against Johnson and Hall.
     
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  4. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    The first Tarver fight was nearly 9 years ago...i thought we were talking about now?

    Because Tarver is not very talented. Roy almost got shut out on the cards...he was clearly done.

    Shieka was a bum and Trinidad was an old shot welterweight.
     
    SouthpawJab, Nov 26, 2011
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy dealt with Sheika as you would have expected, yet Sheika pushed Diaconu to a tough fight. Diaconu was then a top 10 LHW.
    Now Roy was competitive against Lebedev who some felt was unlucky against world champ Sturm and Lebedev dominating Toney for the full route. Jones was ahead on one card
     
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  6. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bailey what ****ing world do you live in? Really, what ****ing world?
     
    JASPER, Nov 26, 2011
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why dont you answer the question twat?
    If its too difficult find a simple post that you wont have to think too hard to answer.
    Here is a top answer below from elite poster Headbanger.

    its possible that roy jones is not as shot as many fanboys would have you believe and here is why



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    its hard to believe that people were ranking jones p4p number 1 during that abysmal run of opponents. to add to the laughter factor roy jones was avoiding the man at 175 the whole time in DM.

    jones moved up to heavy and beat hand picked ruiz, a great achievement but i always fancied jones to win that fight because of the speed factor and that ruiz wouldn't be able to land on jones.




    now look back at that horrific list of roy jones opponents above that spanned 5 years and then look at the fighters jones faced after tarver, sandwiched before and after jones' loss to calzaghe.

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    why did jones lose to tarver and johnson?
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    is it because as with every fighter, jones reflexes had slowed down a little with age and his defeciency in technical boxing skills led to roy jones' horrific glass jaw continually being exposed?




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    after this fight, jones came back and laid a sustained beatdown on lacy, showing a phenominal skill set. if this fight was during the horrific run of opponents jones had during his supposed p4p number 1 run at 175, it would have been talked about non stop by the jones fanboys as one of thee great performances and held alongside other performances such as vinny pazienza and dave telesco :deal


    next came a victory over sheika, a sheika who had previously beaten glen johnson, again another performance to rank alongside his horrific 6 year run as p4p number 1 run.


    next came the green and ledbedev defeats, can these fights be put down to a further slowing down in roys reflexes, further exposing roys pathetic jaw against big hitting fighters?


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    to put an exact time limit on jones' decline is much harder than most fanboys seem to think and this is purely because of the sub-standard run of opponents roy was allowed to fight on HBO for so long.


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    bailey, Nov 26, 2011
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  8. JN43

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    before Jones got luckily Ko'd by Lebdav, he was winning that fight easy. Thats right beating Lebdav the man many considered the best man at cruiserweight and felt got robbed against Huck, who is considered the best at CW. Roy is still not shot imo, hes just facing better opponents.
     
    JN43, Nov 26, 2011
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  9. kmac

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    ^^^^ there you go. roy was obviously in his prime vs joe. one month shy of 40 and over 4 yrs past ko losses to tarver and johnson. the stupidity here is unreal.
     
    kmac, Nov 26, 2011
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  10. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i'm one of jones' biggest supporters on these boards. i can't see how anyone had him winning vs lebedev up until the ko. i thought roy won 2 rounds. lebedev is very limited but good enough to beat up old guys.
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Greetings Kmac. Always an honour to welcome you onto my threads.
    You have to admit Jones performed better overall than Toney did against Lebedev dont you. Also did you forget that Jones could have been awarded a KD?
     
    bailey, Nov 26, 2011
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  12. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Diaconu is not a world class fighter...

    He was losing nearly every round..That fight was competitive in the sense that Lebedev didn't run through a shot fighter, but Roy was still losing, badly.
     
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  13. JASPER

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    I really didnt read all your **** because you live in another universe.

    Everyone but you and a select few knows RJJ was shot after Ruiz.

    I hate RJJ (like I hated Micheal Jordan and Larry Bird) but I knew how great he (they) were. Even an absolute blind Idiot could see that he was not the same fighter V Tarver as before the Ruiz fight. Only people with an agenda would deny that FACT!
     
    JASPER, Nov 26, 2011
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did Roy not look unlucky to you not to get the benefit of a last round KO?
    Go to 2min in
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQPILE1nQDs[/ame]
     
    bailey, Nov 26, 2011
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  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Roy was shot straight after scoring arguably his biggest win :nut
     
    bailey, Nov 26, 2011
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