Did Mayweather cheat vs Marquez like Castllio vs Corrales

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I decided to click to view your post for once.

    Clearly you are wrong.

    The fight turned into a catch weight.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3238297

    "Floyd looks way bigger than Ortiz! He must be 165lbs+ more!" - pejevan
     
  2. eze

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    Mayweather was 152 against Marquez, according to to the ring.

    I just find it funny he's blown up vs Mayweather yet a legit opponent for Pac at 144.
     
  3. FORMIDABLE

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    152 in a Ring weigh-in the week before the fight, when he was still training and trying (or maybe not) to get down. He would've been more on fight night.
     
  4. eze

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    He looked the same size vs Ortiz.

    Or are you going to believe Marquez that he was 165+ :lol:
     
  5. pejevan

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    You are using fights that were legitimately catchweights to make your case?

    The fights mentioned were fought at catchweights to begin with. Not became a catchweight because someone failed to make weight.

    You have no brain?

    There have been many cases of fighter not making weights and they never became catchweight.

    Donaire vs. Rafael concepcion was SANCTIONED at SUPERFLY (limit 115) but Concepcion came in at 119, which is 2 divisions higher which is SUPERBANTAMWEIGHT. Does that mean that the fight is now a SUPERBANTAM fight? Because using your logic, this seems like the case.
     
  6. FORMIDABLE

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    Personally I believe he was mid 150's, can't be proved either way. That's not the issue though, he was a full fledge welter who cheated a lightweight on the scales coming up two divisions to fight him. Marquez was put in a dangerous situation whatever Mayweather weighed.
     
  7. KO KIDD

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    i think the whole arguement is dumb anyway because Floyd won without imposing his size he won by winning the smaller mans game speed and reflexes

    if JMM's camp wanted to cry foul they woulda cancelled

    its like declining a penalty in american football when the other team scores a touchdown after a holding call
     
  8. eze

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    You didn't even read the ****ing article you piece of ****.

    All of the boxing world eagerly awaited the lightweight championship rematch between Jose Luis Castillo and Diego Corrales after their sensational fight four months earlier, won by Corrales in the 10th round. Castillo, however, failed to make the 135-pound limit for the return fight. After weighing in three times, he was still three-and-a-half pounds overweight. He was fined $120,000 -- 10 percent of his purse -- by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

    The fighters' camps huddled to try to find a way to salvage the fight. Finally, it was agreed that Corrales would go through with the scheduled 12-rounder on the understanding that Castillo weighed no more than 147 pounds at a special, Nevada commission-supervised weigh-in at 3 p.m. on fight day.

    Castillo made the weight, and the fight was on -- except that now it was a catchweight bout, with the officially announced weights being 139-and-a-half pounds for Castillo, 135 pounds for Corrales.

    The Corrales camp went into the fight believing it had done all it could to make an equal fight, but as I reported from ringside for Boxing Monthly: "The difference in the physical strength, vitality and power of the two men once the fight started was soon evident." A crunching left hook finished Corrales in the fourth round, but the late warrior told the postfight press conference: "I'm not going to muck up his win by even entertaining the thought that he had an unfair advantage.

    Whether he made the weight or not is not the point. He came out there and did a good job today." A rubber match was cancelled after the weigh-in when Castillo again could not make the lightweight limit. This time the Corrales side walked away. Amazingly, it was Corrales who failed to make weight for a lightweight title bout against old rival Joel Casamayor on Oct. 7, 2006. The bout, at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, went ahead at catchweights, with Casamayor eking out a split decision over a sluggish Corrales.




    :patsch

    pejevan again proves he's a moron.
     
  9. Whipdatass

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  10. FORMIDABLE

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    Lucky for Marquez it was how Mayweather chose to fight him. The thing is though Marquez couldn't hurt Floyd who had a strength advantage, so Floyd could do what he wanted with impunity. Whether Marquez was outboxed, outspeeded or whatever, the weight did play a big role in Marquez's ineffectiveness.
     
  11. eze

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    Yes it was.

    Since Castillo failed to make weight and Corrales and team wanted to still fight. The fight turned INTO a catch weight fight.
     
  12. KO KIDD

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    Marquez couldnt hurt him cause he couldnt touch him

    if Marquez hit Floyd with the shots he hit Manny with believe me Floyd would have been bothered no doubt
     
  13. Whipdatass

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    They can call it what they like, but a catchweight fight is fought at a catchweight. You can't call it a catchweight the day of the fight because one fighter failed to make weight.
     
  14. pejevan

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    You know how a 147 or 148 pound fighter versus a 164 pounder look like?

    Pac vs. Margarito is almost similar in weight difference, and the size discrepancy can actually be seen. That is about 17 pounds difference.

    Gayweather is nowhere 4 pounds near what Marquez weighed in their fight at fight time. The size difference is very obvious. Only a ***** like you believe a non-existent post-weighin suddenly appear. It was documented that he did not have weight taken after weigh-in, suddenly ring mag would have a number?
     
  15. eze

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    Yes you can and do.

    Corrales and team had to re-agree to fight Castillo. Therefore a new weight was negotiated.