Canelo vs Ishida

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kid Cubano, Dec 1, 2011.


  1. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since there is a controversy about Kirkland deserving a shot at Canelo and all the overprotection around this kid ( i believe Canelo is a great prospect-superfun to watch, just he doesnt deserve a belt yet)..will a fight against Ishida give the fans a lit of satisfaction( for those who take mutual oponents into consideration)and make a competitive and attractive fight?....or Ishida is high risk,low reward,basefan problem, blah,blah
     
  2. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Canelo vs. Kirkland, Lara, Angulo, Vanes, that's what he have to do.... why Ishida, Just because he tagged Kirkland? I'll prefer Angulo-Ishida better, is time for Mr. Red to step up and fight a live body preferably Lara.
     
  3. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree with you, but the fact is that he isnt gonna fight any top contender any time soon.I dont know if Ishida will be consider too much a risk as well.
     
  4. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    **** that, why do Kirkland and Angulo deserve a shot at Canelo and not Ishida?
    Kirkland should have to beat Ishida in a rematch before he gets a shot at a belt.

    Ishida would have a much better chance at beating Canelo than Kirkland and Angulo anyway.
     
  5. hookoffthejab

    hookoffthejab Member Full Member

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    canelo would wear ishida down over the stretch for a late round stoppage not saying or taking anything away from ishida ...
     
  6. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    What belt? Because Canelo is a paper champ, the only reason fighters wants to face him is because he's blocking the path, and Angulo was the #1 contender forced to fight for a shot at the belt, now Suli**** is saying Kirkland is not the official #1 because it was supposed b Vanes vs Angulo, that WBC belt is not worth $hit as a matter of fact none of those WBC belts are worth a $hit...
     
  7. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    NO, Kirkland needs to get his revenge and then Kirkland fights Red head.
     
  8. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nobody cares much for that revenge as for kirkland against canelo himself...meantime who's gonna fight canelo? the champ of portugal?
     
  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ishida, seems like a fluke to me

    Ishida should fight an Angulo or a Lara or Molina

    Kirkland deserves a crack at a title after the Angulo KO id love a K9 fight
     
  10. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn't Ishida fight at 160? What weight would these Ishida fights be at?

    It was understandable for Kirkland at MW after the long lay off, but now?
     
  11. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where did you read that? I kind of figured some type of BS will arise after a "threat" came knocking on Canelo's door. Same thing goes for Chavez jr. Those WBC belts that are held by Mexicans are worthless! Too much protection from them, its better for the WBC just to force taxi drivers or bums to fight Canelo and Chavez Jr. for the rest of their lifes that way they can hold to them.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ten posts into the thread, and nobody has put their finger on the exact reason why this is an obvious mismatch? :blood

    Let's backtrack a bit...to before Ishida vs. Kirkland (which let's be honest, is where 98% of people first heard of Ishida).

    Back to last October. Nobuhiro Ishida vs. Rigoberto Alvarez

    They fought on pretty even terms, although I felt Ishida earned the nod and Rigo got some Mexican home-cooked rice and beans.

    For those who don't know, Rigoberto Alvarez is the older brother of Saul Alvarez.

    He's basically a shittier version (less talented and accordingly less nurtured, less intelligent, less powerful and even slower) of Canelo.

    Ishida - while I felt he won the overall match - got walked down and bullied for stretches by Rigo (and got dropped). His body language late on was that of a scared fighter. Walked down, bullied, hurt, scared. By ****ing Canelo Lite. (and that's even being generous to Rigo)
     
  13. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ishida has NEVER been stopped... Ishida is probably a half step better than Ryan Rhodes, almost as experienced as Cintron..... I think it goes the distance... Saul wins, but learns in that fight...
     
  14. Jaaames

    Jaaames Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ishida fights at 154...
     
  15. Spman20999

    Spman20999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That was actually the only other fight of Ishida's that I have seen. Personally, I definitely think he took it. However, it was as you say it was. Still, I am now a fan of Ishida because I ****ing love upsets. So I want to see this fight as Ishida beating Alvarez would make me the happiest man on the planet. Would he likely win? No, it would be in Alvarez's favour. But would it be awesome if he won? Yes, dear God that would be amazing.