punchstats - murray vs sturm

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by gattiwarrior, Dec 3, 2011.


  1. gattiwarrior

    gattiwarrior Guest

    murray oulands sturm with over 50 punches


    punchstats are just on the scene

    258 murray
    182 sturm

    murray outlands sturm in 9 of 12 rounds with 1 even
     
  2. BoxingAnalyst

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    Interesting, Sturm landed the more eye catching punches.
     
  3. gattiwarrior

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    if you look on the scene you will see big differences some of the rounds in where murray is outlanding sturm

    watching last night i felt that far too many of sturm punches were hitting the gloves , thats why i went with volume and scored the fight 115-114 murray
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This means nothing. Murray routinely through 8 or 9 punches that had absolutely no power and barely moved Sturm. Sturms jab alone would back Murray up.
     
  5. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do people continue to post compubox stuff on fights?

    They have absolutely zero relevance regarding scoring fights, nothing.
     
  6. charleston

    charleston Member Full Member

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    This.I always take the quality of landed punches over quantity,in most cases anyway.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxers should be punished for lacking power? It's not like they were arm punches, its just that Sturm was too tough but that doesn't mean Murray should be penalised for that.
     
  8. Eubank

    Eubank Active Member Full Member

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    How many of those 258 were real punches? 1 in 5?
     
  9. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    It's meant to be effective aggression - if one fighter's aggression is more effective and backs the other off, I would always score for him.
     
  10. gattiwarrior

    gattiwarrior Guest

    yes they dont score fights but in a close fight it can show why a judge maybe favored a fighter because of the punches landed.


    sturm was hitting the gloves alot , they should not be scored
     
  11. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As was Murray.

    Overall, Sturm landed the harder, cleaner and more effective shots.
     
  12. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was a close fight that could have been scored either way, a draw was probably the fairest. Compubox however...is ****ing apalling. Watch round 1 of Angulo v Kirkland and count Angulo's punches...then look at Compubox numbers.
     
  13. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Are you trying to argue this proves Murray won? I just felt that whenever Sturm opened up his shots tended to be harder and drove Murray back. I don't reward for effort.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Murray doesn't lack power, he just doesn't commit to his punches. He didn't step in with his jab and he wasn't turning his body into his shots. There was no explosiveness in his work either. Murrays punches were pretty much pitty patter and unless he (rarely) put 5 or 6 shots together were he dug on a few body shots then he never once stopped Sturm from advancing.

    If a boxer does lack power then yes they are punished and have to make up for it by having a higher workrate, being more accurate etc
     
  15. roe

    roe Guest

    Didn't realise this was an amateur fight?

    From what I saw, the majority of Murray's punches were really weak.