David Haye is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Povetkin, Adamek, Ibragimov, Solis & Helenius

he never once stood slap bang, toe to toe, hand to hand, he had a couple of instances of good upper body movement, wow!! if he made wlad miss then how come wlad won nearly every round? doesn't add up to me..

also you mention size,yet no credit is given to wlad for matching and surpasing the agility and speed of a man younger, lighter and supposedly quicker than himself! he was easy to walk down hence his propensity to drop to his knees at any given moment..[/quote]

He actually did, have you watched the fight? he stood infront of Wlad far longer than what Adamek stood infront of Vitali for, as i stated in the previous post he made Wlad miss but Wlad was to clever to be in a position to be countered, its really quite simple.

You mention Wladimir surpassing Haye's own strengths of speed and agility which is also completely false. Klitschko used distance so he could get his own punches off whildt Haye could not get his off, its really not rocket science.

Finally your point about Wlad walking Haye down is actually true, but that was done at a completely safe distance so Haye again had no chance of countering. Everytime Haye came forward Wlad either disapeared from range or tied Haye up. He boxed a very good gameplan to completely negate all of Haye's strengths but both guys were to blame for the fight being negative.

 

Haye, Adamek, Sultan(I assume we aren't talking about Timur) are all the same class. You can split hairs, and they have individual strengths and weakness but they've all about accomplished the same thing.

Povetkin might be better, he has the best HW resume of this bunch with Byrd, Chageav, Boz, and Chambers..that's for ****ing sure.

Solis is a fat crippled bum until he proves otherwise, he made quick work of 2 GUNZ though so he's at least a head above the Tuaman.

 

I doubt it.

 

Haye's waiting for Vitali to get "old over night" but after Vitali's destruction of Adamek, doesn't look like that's gonna' happen for another few years.

I hear through the grapevine that Arreola wants to fight Haye badly :yep If that fight happens, I'll bet Chris by KO :bbb:yep

 

to me Haye is clearly the 3rd best heavyweight, he's a coward though and will never risk exchanging with the klits and getting hurt which is his only chance of winning. haye is bitchmade

 

His resume at heavyweight does not warrant him being automatically favored against the other men in question.... His best effort is a decision over an even more diminished Valuev, than the one who Chagaev beat and who a 46 year old holyfield gave hell to... This does not stand out as being a particularly huge feat...

 

hayes best win = valuev...shot holyfield also slapped valuev..iggy beat holyfield (easily) a while before that do you see where im going with that??when you grow up in the 80s and 90s you tend to keep some slang you grew up with.unlike yourself who is obviously a naughtys child calling me a spastic..i bet you carry a knife and think your hard aswell...

 

sorry buddy i usually agree with you i cant here...with wlads style its easy to go 12 rounds with him and lose a lopsided ud its the same vitali if you dont attack them but just defend then your going to go the distance (ofcourse you do need a decent defence and be in top shape because you are going to take some big shots)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XMIR-7LifIs

 

significantly ... based on what?

 

Haye beats Adamek, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Helenius for sure. Solid vs Haye would be a great fight though

 

Coward

 

yay. a triangle theory. those work. & while we're doing those he only managed a draw with the mighty ray austin. what a truly world class performer.

i think your maturity level is perfectly illustrated by your ******ed & grammatically incorrect user name & your ****-sucking man love for the k bros. oh...& the fact that you can't read. :good

 

Haye won me over a little in the Klitschko fight. He was a lot better than I believed him to be. But I would still pick Povetkin and Ibragimov over him...