Joshua Clottey

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  1. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones wasn't roiding vs Toney. He wasn't buffed out.

    vs Hall he did seem to be bigger than he ever was, faster than he ever was, if there were ever going to be a case of a fight where he looked completely different it would be against Hall. I don't think Jones ever looked that physically impressive again so a case could be made he used steroids for that fight.

    But if Hall used it too then it does cancel out. It means Jones would have beat him in the same fashion whether he was on steroids or not. And honestly if you are Jones and you know it's legal to use steroids and you know the opponent is on steroids why wouldn't you go on steroids too?

    Also what kind of steroids was it? Some over the counter supplements later on got ruled as steroids. I don't consider those supplement steroids but they were pro-hormone supplements which would cause you to test as a steroid user. Find out exactly what kind of steroid he tested positive for to determine if it were growth hormone or just some over the counter supplement.
     
  2. Imperial1

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    As always no one ever points out how high Hall tested :

    It was an over the counte suppliment that is now banned ..Stop it already ..The man was never punished for it nor did he fail another test again !


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  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::rofl:patsch

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  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Almost everyone at the top is more then likely on something.
     
  5. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    here come the delusional fanboys :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :rofl:rofl:rofl :patsch:patsch
     
  6. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    What steroid did he test positive for? Both James Toney and Fernando Vargas, they name the exact steroid they tested positive for.

    "An anabolic steroid" dont mean ****. You cant say that it wasnt Andro if you cant tell me what steroid it was. When you run a test you find out what exact drug it was. Its science not voodoo magic.
     
  7. Good to see that Elite-level posters such as Rico Spadafora and HEADBANGER are swathing through the jungle of bull**** and delivering ice cold irrefutable scientific facts. Keep up the good work.:deal
     
  8. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hopkins, Toney,R. Johnson,Hill,Tarver.

    Also the "appaling" list fo fighters he fought at 175 is made up of guys who were all top 10 fighters at the time. And one who was a top 5 HW at the time.

    Eric Harding holds a win over Tarver.

    Gonzalez was undefeated and ended Michaelchewskis career.

    Clinton Woods went 1-1-1 with a prime Johnson.

    Ruiz was a legit champ at the time. He wasnt Lewis obviously but he was prop a top 5 heavyweight.

    Had a win over a still dangerous Holyfield, Rahman,Golota. Most of his losses were either SD'd or MD'd in other fighters countries.

    Outside of the one round KO Tua got against him,No one ever beat him in a one sided fight like Jones did, right up until Haye got a hold of him when he was at the end of his career,and he fought practically everyone.

    So thats not exactly a bad list at light heavy.
     
  9. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    what the **** you talking about you cum gargling shemale :nut:nut:patsch

    jones fought hopkins, toney, reggie johnson and hill before the hall fight whilst he was juicing himself up. these performances are void, my whole post was about roy jones performances
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    he had been found guilty of taking banned anabolic steroids :deal

    you mention tarver :lol: tarver is a B- level fighter and he still smashed a clean jones to pieces on 2 occasions :rofl

    clinton woods - give me a ****ing break - he is the definition of eurobum, one of the most limited world champions of all time - wow he beat glen johnson, who the **** hasn't (apart from a clean roy jones) :lol:
     
  10. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    I have to disagree with your conclusion.

    The andro explanantion is just Jones's explanation. He also had around 3 weeks to come up with an explanation. He also claimed it was due to nasal spray

    http://www.davidtua.net/forum/displ...mID=2&TopicID=631&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=2

    http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html
     
  11. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    What is the allowed amount and how much could you gain from ripped fuel liek jones said he did?
     
  12. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    No, it was not.

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/06/former-commission-doctor-says-blood-testing-feasable-for-boxing/

    He tested positive for an anabolic steroid which the interviewer never asked Hall to name.
    http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html
    The interviewer should of asked Hall here to identify the steroid, but seems intent on leaving the issue ambigious
    He has the results but no one wants to see them and no one wants to know which steroid it actually was.

    http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html

    The only boxing sites to take any interest in the matter were Braggingrights and Boxingin$ider everyone else ignored it.
     
  13. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    They didnt test for it because no one wanted to pay for it. That is why Skip Homansky started the pilot scheme in 2001 to work out the costs. The state of Indiana obviously were not bothered about the costs which is why they were testing much sooner
     
  14. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Hall was 10x the legal limit
    What is your source for this? The only person who is qualified to talk about it is Richard Hall (the head of Indiana state athletic commitee) and he says Jones tested positive for an anabolic steroid. Who says it was Ripped Fuel?
     
  15. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    The interviewer never asks Hall to identify the steroid and he should have because it would of cleared up all the confusion
    What evidence is there that Andro can make you test postive for 6x the legal limit for an anabolic steroid?