ME sparring Dib - Video!

Train smart first and train hard second. Both are important, in Aus boxing the only thing that is important is training hard. Notice how we have plenty of tough boxers but very few skilled boxers?
We have trainers who know how to throw a punch but don't know how to teach, the mentality seems to be that whatever a fighter has is 'natural' and the goal of the coach is to motivate and that's it, maybe devise a poorly thought out gameplan.
Boxing coaches here don't know how to build or how the body or mind actually works. I trained under a coach who was the national coach at one point and while he got some things right he still had a lot of the 'old school' in him. We have unintelligent people involved in boxing here, it has a long tradition of being a 'tough' fight business. The best nations in boxing see it as a sport determined by skills and intelligence.
We lag behind and I think our culture is going to keep it like that.

 

Yeah good call *** :roll:

Do you train in the ACT, i'll have a word to your coach and let him know to tell the boys they dont have to take it easy on your little punk ass anymore :hi:

Ask anyone who has been there, your way of sparing (fu*king and mucking around) would get you booted from 99% of gyms. Your a clown, have fun training today:

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Ahh so you trained under bodo, explains a lot then farktard :hi:

 

No I didn't.

 

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying to **** around or not think about what you're doing. I'm saying try different things, throw punches you don't usually throw well. Perfect different punches in a different order from different angles at different speeds with varying force.
I'm saying don't try to perform, because training isn't about performing. You can win your sparring session by jabbing from a tight shell and throwing a right hand ocassionally but you're not gaining anything from that apart from some misplaced confidence.
By including the random, varied practice you learn easier, you'll be more versatile and adaptable against different opponents.
Or keep trying to be a 'tough' guy, whatever. Every top boxer is tough, being tough makes little difference to the outcome of a fight at the top level.

 

Just realised I explained the Green-Tarver situation perfectly, Green being a tough guy in sparring while Tarver was setting traps and timing in his sparring throwing all sorts of different punches. I remember when the sparring footage of Tarver was put on youtube before that fight everybody on here was saying that Tarver looked like **** and was getting tagged easily, I must've been the only one who said that he looked good. That's because the Aussie idea of 'Good sparring' is two guys going balls out trying to smash each other. Aussie boxing is dumb, the people involved just don't know. I'm obviously wasting my time here, later chumps.

 

Did you ever train at the old Turner PCYC?

 

I couldnt agree more, the mentality instilled into oursparring culture does nothing to improve skill levels, your spot on

 

i agree also. quality, not quantity. mundine regularly gets flogged in sparring. he takes punches he doesnt need to.

tony had a thoughabred, and turned him into a warhorse.

 

Stiffjab: In my old PCYC, we would go at each other life and death day in day out..
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thats great mate, similarly Stiffjab...I was sparring in the kitchen with my elder brother from the age of 5yrs old to about 16yrs old, this was always a high challenge to try and win; at 13yrs of age, we were sent off to Leo Berry's, were we had to show the grit and slog it out with the pro and amateur fighters; sparring was always an intense fight, that we desperately wanted to win..

Then we were off to Palmer's, with his great defensive style and ring craft tuition, we were allowed to spar with the very, very best and our motive was to always try and win; eventually, we were able to confidently handle most boxer/fighters during warrish spars...we learned, won and lost some....sparring should be a compilation of (pre)planning, implementing, monotoring, rolling out the experiment and review.

Occasionaly, my bro and I did do a type of farking around, experimenting with punches and moves, relaxing and shaping up together sometimes, usually in our parents big kitchen, with our bare hands, and we were accurately aware not to strike each other with a heavy bare fisted blow....this is where we set about to be slightly innovative, experimentation I suppose - with some thought-out designed moves, as if to test the plan. If we farked up in our innovative punches or moves introduction, each other would deliver the most decent open handed hook or stiff open palmed left jab to the head. What we never did, in gym or kitchen, was to get into any bull-shitey type of campish, gesticulative, posing modes( aka hands down, sway your head from side to side, hold your hands down on your thighs, leaping from one point to another far away point.....swishing your hands in a rotational mode like a windmill ...all this posing and rubbish - well, we usually thought and left this for the many bullshiters in the game.

 

BCboxer...I am sorry to stifle your supposed ?spar? with a decent world champion..
I really do not think that it was an actual spar...more accurately, it was a bit of a dance around, fark around, out of the ring posing game.

I am not trying to be nasty....but putting any video up on a boxing forum deserves its necessary critique as a boxing forum medium.

This fark around (not really a spar) would be great to give to your sons, daughters, grand daughters, grandsons etc....as an indication that you did mix with Dibs in the gym from time to time...in context to whatever greatness he achieves of course. with the importance of Dibs gaining further importance over his future years, as an important historical boxer of great boxing skills (so as to impress your grandkids) if they are interested...

From a boxing "purist's" point of view, which I consider myself to be; I believe that your video is basically, very flawed in your indication that it is any (typical) spar....in my view your video encaptures mostly skillsets from the Australian Ballet Company, rather than skills from two fighters/boxers engaging or demonstrating their boxing skills in any type of realistic spar.

 

I cannot find your name on Boxrec. No Fights?

 

Everything this guy is saying is ****ing spot on. You other clowns have no idea.

 

Fundamentals first.

It's a waste of time encouraging varied practice if the fundamentals aren't there. All that does is encourage bad habits.

Ty's footwork is wrong. His balance is wrong. And his punches are all over the place. The last thing he needs is to **** around and continue using flawed technique. That's a wasted training session right there. His ****ing chin is in the air everytime he throws a punch. Ty shouldn't have even be sparring until he learned to tuck his chin in.

As for the Russians' training methods, they practice the same thing over and over until they get it right. Then they move onto something else. Yes, they use varied training, but only after they perfect how to throw each punch.

Hours should be spent in the gym without throwing a punch let alone throwing varied punches.