Who will win the rematch between Helenius and Chisora?

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  1. Alien

    Alien Chin Scholar Full Member

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    Helenius is god awful. Now I hate clinching but if he learnt to do it like Glass Jaw Wlad then Chisora would be stuffed imo.
     
    Alien, Dec 7, 2011
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  2. DrMo

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0sFZWczB9c[/ame]
     
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  3. RazzAxx

    RazzAxx Active Member Full Member

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    That's something we never saw during the bout between Helenius and Chisora, both were going at it as boxers and netiher where doing holding when the fight went to short distance. That' s one of the reasons it was the best heavy weight bout of the year 2011.
     
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  4. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's a European thing. We don't have many good fighters, so we stick by anyone with any talent!
     
    The Kurgan, Dec 7, 2011
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  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His injury was minor and whether it stopped him from throwing full power shots or not, it certainly wouldn't stop him from being easily outboxed and outfought.
     
    Jack, Dec 7, 2011
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  6. Samurai's Slice

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    Bring it here to the states! :happy
     
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  7. Maximus

    Maximus TKO6 Full Member

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    Huh? Based on what? Helennius wasn't improving as the fight went on and he didn't have Dereck timed (if anything it was the other way round). The only way Chisora loses is if he fights out of shape or he gets robbed again.
     
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  8. pirao666

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    Unless they do it on neutral ground I'm not interested, Sauerland would just pay the judges again.
     
    pirao666, Dec 7, 2011
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  9. Fists o Foreman

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    That may well be true, but on the other hand (no pun intended) we have seen Helenius make mistakes in his fights with Peter and Liakhovich but his right hand (and left) are his suzi Q equalisers.
    So if Helenius' right was causing him pain every time threw a punch then that would probably have effected the rest of his rhythm so to speak.

    The rematch would be an interesting fight.......but I think Helenius would learn from this fight and would expect Helenius to win much more decisively next time out.
    Chisora did fantastically well, but I just have a feeling that Chisora won't improve much.......but Helenius might just step up his game next time out.
     
    Fists o Foreman, Dec 7, 2011
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    I don't think Helenius can legitimately beat Chisora, unless the latter gets fat & complacent (or has a defeatist attitude that no matter what he does he'll be deprived of the win anyway).

    If both come in at the same weights and with the same respective mindsets and motivation as last time - expect it to play out the same way (which may or may not mean the same end result depending on judges & location..)
     
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