Lamont Peterson: "A lot of things didn't make sense about Margarito . . ."

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  1. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uh, okay... He landed 3 uppercuts, but you don't know the round? Before/after he was bleeding profusely?

    So anyone know what round it started? Don't have the fight and not at home to watch on demand...
     
  2. alexgtshp

    alexgtshp Active Member Full Member

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    OOhhhhh, I see, your idiotic question deserves an educated answer, not an equally idiotic one. Tell you what, when you can ask an educated rational question on this topic, I'll be sure to post an equally educated and rational answer. My guess, I'll never have to worry about it.
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I think he nose was broken from the 2nd round.

    I can remember exactly what round it is in off the top of my head, but I watched the fight a couple of nights ago and there is a round where Cotto starts with his face in alright condition, takes a few shots, and then by the end he looks brutalised.
     
  4. Arcane

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    There's no case to conduct no investigation to be done, it's already been done in the past the verdict already came back and sorry to inform you but that lying, cheating, glass eyed disgrace was found guilty.

    Morales, Barrera, JMM, Rafa Marquez, Vazquez, Arce = Warriors

    Margarito = Fraud.
     
  5. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    capetillo took the fall for margo . . . arum probably drops him a few bucks for every fight that margo has! Slimy lot, the whole bunch
     
  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So a world class fighter with bricks in his gloves gets a year suspension and no criminal charges... Thats attempted murder in front of the whole world...:good
     
  7. Arcane

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lduFFJj2P6I[/ame]
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Freddy, I cannot and never will say for sure that Margarito had plaster in his gloves for the first or any fight, but I can assure you that you can feel a fist in 16 and 14 oz gloves. Putting any solid substance, even just tiny round pebbles, would definitely increase the damage your face takes in terms of cuts and swelling. Anything at all in that 8oz glove would be a dramatic difference.
     
  9. alexgtshp

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    There's no use in trying to explain it. Good try though, that makes lots of sense to me. Unfortunately, it will fall on ears that don't work any better than cheatos right eye.
     
  10. freddy-wak

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    whats not legit about my question.....wtf can an old pad with a "smear" of some foreign substance that turned out to be something our body naturally produces, DO TO A FIGHTER ?????

    you idiots seem to think that he actually had brass knuckles in his gloves....****en cartoon ass ni99as...get some ****en common sense....clottey, williams, and even cintron said margo didnt hit hard...now all of a sudden vs cotto he's a ****en human tank ??? get the **** outta here with that ****.....mosley said margo hurt him with a right....he also almost folded pac, something that almost seems impossible....yet you pussies still cry foul, over an old pad his fighter took full responsibility for.......idiots
     
  11. freddy-wak

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  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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  13. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    so no damage at all to margos knuckles......wow

    how is it that the same amont of tape and gauze on both sides of the pad can cause more damage only on the side thats protected by the glove, and not the fighters actual knuckle ????
     
  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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  15. carias

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    While I think the use of the pads is deplorable (on Margarito's part obviously), I think it has steadily been blown out of proportion. Margarito is 1-3 since he was discovered trying to put handwraps in his gloves so it is easy to assume that the lack of wraps is to blame. I don't think that is the case.

    1) The case of Sebastian Lujan's ear: This could easily be attributed to a freak accident as it happens in boxing from time to time. I remember in a Casamayor/Corrales fight, Diego had his mouth piece poking through under his lip. Or Vargas's crazy swelling against Mosely. Sometimes in boxing, outrageous injuries take place.

    2) Additionally, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he used loaded wraps in other fights. Williams never showed the type of swelling that Cotto exhibited, neither did Cintron. Cintron lost to Margarito twice but was never busted up, just beaten down. Also, other fighters that Margarito has fought didn't display this kind of swelling pre-wrap scandal. Cotto, on the other hand, has shown consistently that his face does not hold up well. Zab Judah busted him up fairly good, in a fight he lost, as did Clottey. Manny Pacquaio rearranged his face similarly to what Margarito had done. His face being swollen and bloody isn't evidence enough.

    3) The "he got caught once so he must have done it hundreds of time" argument fails to contextualize the event. Margarito was caught before the Mosely fight amid plenty of rumors that he had struggled mightily with the weight and had been routinely beaten by his sparring partners during training camp. My brother had a conversation with Dough Fisher, during his Max Boxing days, and he had stated that Margarito was getting handled easily by journey men sparring partners leading up to the fight. Isn't it rational to think that his camp saw that he had a great chance at losing the fight and big paydays and took an ill-advised, one-time, calculated risk, rather than try to commit the same crime fight after fight?

    4) Margarito hasn't been the same since the wraps because he took two tremendous beat downs before taking a year off from boxing. While he beat Cotto, he took more punishment than he had ever taken in his career. He took the kind of beating that shortens careers, twice! Then he took a year long lay off and came up at a higher weight class. Honestly, who thought he was going to be even close to the same fighter after that. Him being ineffective after the lay off just means that he is not the same fighter he once was due to wear, tear, and aging.

    5) He didn't beat Cotto in the second fight because Cotto was much more prepared and had a better game plan coupled with Margarito being a walking zombie at this point. Compare both the first and the 2nd fights and Margarito is vastly slower and plodding. Cotto's face looked better because (are you ready?) HE DIDN'T GET HIT AS MUCH! He was blocking many of the shots that were landing in the first fight.

    I agree that Margarito has brought this scrutiny on himself but I just happen to think the lynch party that is after him isn't really thinking everything through.

    PS before any one says it, I'm not Mexican.