how did you score rounds 1,3,6, chisora helenius

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by zulander, Dec 7, 2011.


  1. roe

    roe Guest

    Yeah. Except that's the most bull**** excuse ever. Helenius only landed the cleaner punches if you completely ignore everything that Chisora did. Del beat him in every single factor, including landing the more effective power punches. That's one of the reasons why this was such a terrible robbery.

    Normally when a robbery is called, you can give (not reasons) but excuses to why it may have been scored a particular way. ie Manny Pacquiao was on the front foot and threw more punches than Juan Manuel Marquez. Not saying it's right to score it that way, but you can see why the judges might have sided with that. Same with Sturm/Macklin a few months back. Macklin may have been working early on but Sturm clearly seemed to land the more effective punches throughout.

    In this fight, Chisora was mostly on the front foot, throwing more punches than Helenius, throwing more power punches than Helenius, landing far more punches than Helenius, hurting Helenius far more than he got hurt himself. There is no excuse.

    It was such an awful robbery I feel like a loser for trying to explain this to a troll/mong.
     
  2. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The only way i can score that fight to Rob is if i score a round to whoever throwns the least, and whoever gets hit in the face more. Then I can see it.
     
  3. roe

    roe Guest

    I even heard one mong say that "Chisora didn't even knock him out so how can he complain" :patsch
     
  4. satchmo

    satchmo Active Member Full Member

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    When did RH get hurt? I didnt see it. Only one who got hurt was DC in the first round, as he himself said. Yes, Chisora got robbed but if you look at the fight objectively 99% of his punches went to the guard of RH. RH got the cleaner punches.
     
  5. roe

    roe Guest

    Fixed.
     
  6. satchmo

    satchmo Active Member Full Member

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    I see only 2 power punches landing for Chisora. The rest went to the neck and guard. Maybe the reason why Chisora doesnt knock people out is that he hits with his palms, instead of his fists. Still, he did earn the decision with his hustle.
     
  7. roe

    roe Guest

    :rofl


    And I didn't even need to fix that one :lol:
     
  8. achillesthegreat

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    after 7 rounds i was thinking what rounds are the judges giving to to helenius because at this rate if DC goes 12 he has this in the bag. he did box a couple of times and he did get a little tired and slow down a touch but not enough to give helenius enough rounds to even get him a draw.
     
  9. Thomas!!

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    :patsch

    Youll be needing some of these:

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  10. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think ive just be called a troll/mong for the 1st time ever.
    got to love people behind a monitor.
    anyway seems im in the minority. sure there will be a rematch. i still dont see how anyone can give chrisora round 3 he doesnt punch at all for 1.30 and doesnt land that much after.
    If you got points for being on the front fight all night margarito would win most of his fights without punching
     
  11. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not hard on here
     
  12. roe

    roe Guest

    Just rewatched round 3 in detail:

    * Chisora does nothing offensively for the first 90 seconds. He still slips almost all of Helenius' jabs (the only punch he throws bar 2 straight rights)

    * Helenius only throws 2 right hands in the whole of that time.. one misses wildly the other, is blocked.

    * At 1:40 left in the round, Chisora starts to come forward. He forces Helenius to hold after the first jab Del throws.

    * At 1:27, Chisora whips in a quick right hook around the guard which knocks Helenius back and makes him hold again. Chisora tries to break away before the ref breaks them up for no reason and stops the action for 6 seconds to bizarrely study Chisora's left arm.

    * When the action finally starts up again, Helenius paws a few jabs foward which Chisora slips comfortably and whips a few hooks to the body back. Helenius, the taller man is forced to back up again.

    * Chisora then bangs in a few more hooks, most of which are blocked. He then lands two left uppercuts that rock Helenius' head back, before he steps away to the ropes.

    * Another lazy jab from Helenius is countered by a wild left hook from Chisora which just misses. Helenius throws a 4 punch combination back which gets blocked so easily from Chisora that he stretches his arms out and laughs back in response.

    * The remaining seconds of the round is Chisora throwing jabs as a counter to Helenius' own awful jab while Dereck Chisora throws a few uppercuts and hooks inside.

    Again, I feel like a loser for trying to explain this when it's so obvious.


    Please tell me how you can score that round to Helenius? He didn't land the cleaner punches, he didn't land more punches. That pathetic jab aside, he didn't even throw more punches.

    I'm giving you a chance mong.. Please explain?
     
  13. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No need for the mong bit i have a difference of opnion thats all

    im at work when i can watch in full ill post a reply
     
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    Helenius SD.


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  15. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I forgot about the referee... the whole thing was an absolute farce.