Has wlad done enough such that he's began a new universally accepted lineage?

We, as fans of the sport of Boxing, should ignore the sanctioning mobs and their worthless trinkets. The linear and true title in each division is the only title worth recognizing.

 

Now you are starting to get the idea.

It was good that those guys all got together and establised a new lineage @ 160 but I think it was clear from the beginning who was the best of those three.

Exactly.

 

Which guy was that?

 

Holmes beat Ali so any questions about the legitimacy of his title stops right there...

 

I think that about sums it up.

 

Shouldn't Floyd be recognized as the linear champ @ 147?

 

If The Ring was consistent, they would recognize him as the linear champ. They recognized -or rerecognized- Jack Johnson and Joe Louis, for example, as the linear champ when they came out of retirement and only recognized the successor after he beat them.

I think that is just wrong, wrong. A champion retires, he vacates the throne. He comes back, he has no claim to the throne until he wins it by combat.

Floyd retired on 6/6/2008.

The Ring should either recognize him or fix their lineages, or talk to me and I'll freakin fix it for them.

 

Here's why I like the Ring Rankings even though they have oversights at times... it isn't just one man deciding who are the top two WWs. It's a panel. As much as you know your stuff, you're just one man. See what I'm saying?

 

Your apology is not accepted because it's mine to give! ...Sorry.

 

this...^

 

Same thing happened with Forrest and Mosley in 2002 -they weren't 1 and 2 during the first bout but were for the second, and so only then did Forrest take the throne vacated by Trinidad's throne.

Absent any other official determinant, it's gotta be 1 vs. 2. Making exceptions may put the most deserving guy on the throne, but it will make the rules no more valid than the WBCs.

And again, if 1 or 2 won't fight their main rival, then the rankings can reflect that the following month. Stugots should count when ranking fighters!

Also, in the scenerio that you put forth, if a guy gets wrecked in the first bout, it will be pretty rare that he will only move no slots or one slot. If he loses again to anyone, then he will surely move down.

No system is going to be completely clean. I just see this one as the best one because it controls for all of the holes and bad logic of CBZ and The Ring and others that I've seen.