Why Muhammad Ali would Clown Vitali Klitschko

They surely have more then Ali has on them.
Who has Ali beat that is as big, as good, as fast and as powerful as the Klits?

 

As big and fast for their size? Terrell and to a lesser extent Joe Bugner. Actually, most of the guys that Ali fought had comparable hand and foot speed to the Klit clan.

As powerful? Foreman and Liston immediately come to mind. And they weren't that much smaller than Wlad or Vitali.

Now...Who have the Klits fought who were durable, defensively sound, quick of hand and foot, and well conditioned as Ali was at his best...?

 

Terrell might have been as tall as a Klit , but not as massive , powerful nor remotely good as .
Liston had nothing but shortcomings compared 2d Klitchkos , and that includes power .
Foreman might have been stronger and more aggressive and more resilient than Wladimir , but not as big nor quick as neither brother in his prime .
Bugner ? there is no emoticon 2 express a short response 2 this , it really shows u reply without having an answer . Very bad reply .
Whose next ? Ali KOs Wladimir based on his performances vs Bonavena & Richard Dunn ? how cum u haven't mentioned Richard "heap of" Dunn yet ?

 

You haven't answered the question. Which of Klit's opponents resemble Ali? I await your response.

 

No....Bugner KO's Klit based on his KO of Dunn. :deal





























In all seriousness, Bugner was tough, fundamentally sound fighter who was good at fighting tall. Good jab, decent right hand behind it. Pretty good handspeed, and movement that wasn't any less fluid than the Klit's. A good contender. The fact that you keyed in on Bugner indicates that you a) haven't seen many of his fights or b) are so enamored with the Klits that you couldn't possibly grant the possibility that someone else might have served as the proto-type for their style.

 

It is sad that this is your seriousness because Bugner was not tough (nothing special at least) . And who didn't have a good jab except some of d oldtimers ? I watched Bugner being saved from Shavers and his respect being saved as well due 2 "a cut" . Well , he was cut but it was just n excuse 2 save him from Shavers who decked him and owned his ass .
Bugner was not as big and was not as powerful as neither Klitschko , and that is d critical difference . Shavers would not have been able 2 fully reach Vitali even if he had 2 power 2 put him down , u understand this ? due 2 lack of effective reach , shavers would not have reached and therefore his power wouldn't matter , he would have been reached himself though .
In Ali's case he wouldn't have been able 2 reach without being reached , he would've run , but it's not a way 2 really win , running without doing any damage . Ali did not fight like Byrd and couldn't have . And then again Byrd lost more than won against d brothers and even against Jameel McCline .
While u can compare Bugner 2d Klitschkos in how he fought , d additional reach , power & mass advantage of d brothers , and Bugner was already a big man himself , would have made d difference in outcomes . Remember that even Bugner extended Ali twice . B sure that each brother would have done much better . It's not like Ken Norton was really superman .

 

brilliant answeratsch

Ali may had beat your Listons, Foremans, Fraziers, Quarrys but neither one of them had the complete package that the brothers represent,

Bugner


And Foreman and Liston are both significantly smaller then the smallest of the brothers.

 

Regarding Foreman :
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211663
judge 4 yourself :
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55AasOJZzDE[/ame]

 

quite simply ali would outsmart him. Ali's ring generalship is probably one the best in the game second only to srr

 

Ok...So name a fighter that the Klits have fought that possess the same abilt and skill set as Ali.

 

Ali's "abilt and skill set" was his big mouth and showmanship and, most importantly, his criminal connections that fixed fights for him, and the media that runs cover for him and glorifies him. That's it. The biggest hype job in boxing history.

 

Well, a-hole, I'm surely all choked up about that ain't I?

As for all bull**** threads like this that you see - trying to ridicule the amazing Doctor Klitschko brothers - what it all boils down to is this:

They hate them because...they are white!

 

Furthermore, Ali and the rest of them need to have an asterisk next to their names because they were not real world champions at all. They never fought one single eastern European or Russian, or for that matter, Black African or Cuban emigree. Russians and eastern Europeans weren't even competing in the pros back then. They are now - and the results are obvious!

 

Neither was Chambers vs Dimitrenko, Chagaev-Valuev, Haye-Valuev

and in regards to size advantages over opponents

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