Manny Pacquiao - Pay Per View (PPV) Champion

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by vengeex, Dec 7, 2011.


  1. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    give credit to where it's due *****s. floyd may average a little bit better but pac is doing some great numbers for boxing. consider all the circumstances. pac ain't even american and can't even talk english very well. you're all over the place when floyd does good numbers, give pac his due.
     
  2. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope the 1.5 is right because it would be great for boxing, especially since the UFC tried undercut the fight with their live broadcast on Fox.

    Pac-JMM should have done between 1.3-1.5 because it is a trilogy and has a great back story. As a fan of both guys I do not want so them fight, and this will give uncle bob more leverage in negotiations which means that they will never meet! He has got to keep double dipping on both sides . . . slimy *******
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    wrong. the ring never made floyd number 1 again when pac got it. you are confusing the ring over yahoo.
     
  4. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Yahoo has boxing ratings ?
    Checked it and my bad.
    The great debate just got hotter.

    Manny Pacquiao used a series of spectacular victories to become most experts’ No. 1 fighter pound for pound when Floyd Mayweather Jr. took his 21-month hiatus from boxing. Then, when Mayweather returned and beat Juan Manuel Marquez, some suggested he should reclaim his throne.

    Now, after Mayweather’s spectacular performance against Shane Mosley on Saturday, the top spot became what THE RING magazine Editor in Chief Nigel Collins called “a damn coin flip.”

    Those who side with Pacquiao will say that he earned the top spot and shouldn’t be demoted until he slips up in some way. He beat the likes of Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar De La Hoya before stopping Miguel Cotto and thrashing Joshua Clottey since Mayweather’s return.

    Mayweather’s supporters will say that he should reclaim the top spot because of his unrivaled skill and dominating victories over Juan Manuel Marquez and Mosley, THE RING’s No. 3 fighter pound for pound going into the fight Saturday.

    THE RING is sticking with Pacquiao as its No.1 fighter -- barely.

    “The debate among members of THE RING’s Ratings Advisory Panel concerning who should be No. 1 pound for pound was fairly evenly divided between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather,” Collins said. “Manny and Floyd could very well be considered No. 1A and No. 1B. However, the tricky thing about the pound-for-pound ratings is that they are much more subjective than the divisional ratings, which are objective and based on results within the division.

    “In the end, Pacquiao held onto the top spot due to his slightly better overall body of work and the difficulty involved in demoted a fighter coming off a virtual shutout performance such as Pacquiao’s victory over Joshua Clottey.”

    Other respected boxing journalists don’t agree. One of them is Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports, our partner.

    “I have great respect for what Pacquiao has accomplished in the last three years and there is a very legitimate argument that he has accomplished more in the ring than Mayweather,” Iole said. “That said, the fight with Mosley proved conclusively to me why Mayweather is the best. He fought offensively and stalked a man many thought he would run from. Yet, even though Floyd fought offensively, Mosley could still barely touch him. Mosley only landed 42 power shots in the entire fight, but what is incredible to me is that 13 of those were in the second round. Other than the second, Mosley landed fewer than three power shots a round. That's a testament to Floyd's skill as a fighter.”

    The one thing most observers seem to agree on is that it’s more or less a toss-up.

    “I can't remember a prolonged period of time in which there was more of a difference of opinion than right now,” Collins said. “… Hopefully one day it'll be settled in the ring.”

    That might be the only way the debate ends.

    RATINGS UPDATE

    Pound for pound: Pacquiao (No. 1) and Mayweather (No. 2) retain their positions, while Mosley drops from No. 3 to No. 5. Mosley’s demotion also moves up Nonito Donaire (No. 5 last week) to No. 4. Bernard Hopkins (No. 6 last week) and Miguel Cotto (No. 7 last week) both depart to make room for more deserving fighters to advance or enter. Chad Dawson improves from No. 8 to No. 6, Paul Williams advances from No. 9 to No. 7. New middleweight world champion Serio Martinez debuts at No. 8, while new world flyweight champion Pongsaklek Wonjongkam enters at No. 9. Celestino Caballero remains at No. 10.
     
  5. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    I care about the number but not so much about the money earned. The number shows how many people are like me in this world (boxing fans who like Pacquiao and/or JMM) and it's nice to see that there's still a lot of us, 1.5 million. It's good for boxing.
     
  6. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    And dumb poster pahapoisu is proud that Floyd-Ortiz is the highest priced boxing PPV at $59.95. Must be a *****. :D

     
  7. hennyguzzla

    hennyguzzla Active Member Full Member

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    Kiss my ass, ******! What's the thread about? You don't know ****. ****in' idiot...
     
  8. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    If it's all De La Hoya why didn't Pac-Hoya gross that much?
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kudos to Pac. Now maybe he'll agree to fight Mayweather so he can try and be a part of the biggest non heavyweight fight in history instead of letting Floyd and Oscar have it.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    he was trying since 2009 but floyd always demands some things up or goes into vacation mode.
     
  11. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    Quite amazing indeed.
     
  12. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    As a boxing fan if you pay those prices it your own fault. Technology people, use it to your advantage. Watch the fights and stop paying for it lol.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    is it a good and clear feed though?

    but i agree, i paid P551 ($12) each for my father and myself and watched it in the cinemas but the feed sucks. i can see clearly if the punches actually connected or got blocked only when i got a clear enough copy of the fight.
     
  14. make_the_weight

    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow! P4P PPV champion......WGAF?
     
  15. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now u see why Arum doesnt want to put him in there with Floyd?