What is the reason for some people's dislike of the Klitschkos?

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    The vitali haters are really dummies like jack, relentless and stupid alien who all 3 still talk about vitali quit vs bryd in which that was 11 years ago. Vitali cheating is bs cause he never took steriods in the pros unless if they can prove it. I'm still waiting on a bet with both alien and relentless about vitali vs haye in which if haye wins, i'll leave esb forum for good but if vitali wins then both relentless and alien have to leave esb forum for good. But i guess both dont have faith in haye.
     
  2. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he could. Ibragimov is a decent fighter but not even in Wlad's league. If you think Wlad couldn't have stopped him, you either overrate Ibragimov or underrate Wlad.
     
  4. Champion

    Champion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ibragimimov and Haye are the only 2 out Wlads last 11 fights who survived the distance.

    Mavrovic and Tua are decent fighters but not even in Lennox's league. If you think Lennox couldn't have stopped them, you either overrate Mavrovic and Tua or underrate Lennox.
     
  5. Joe_MacKenzie

    Joe_MacKenzie Boxing Addict banned

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    Ibragimov won Silver in the 2000 Olympics and was a hard puncher for his size. He was very difficult to hit after he worked with Jeff Mayweather.

    Jack, You are obsessed with Wlad, like Mark Chapman was with John Lennon. You should seek psychiatric help.
     
  6. Pat$$$

    Pat$$$ Active Member Full Member

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    Klit's are boring because it seems as if they don't try to win at the opening bell. They are content with the understanding that between rounds 5 and 10 they will get a distinct advantage and 1. allowa guy to tire our or 2. catch him with a pillow hook and the guy just quits, or is given mercy by the ring doctor.

    Vitali should have ko'd Shannon Briggs. Briggs was there to be made a statement out of. But, he didn't and allowed Briggs to have a case.

    Tyson, Tua, Mayweather and many others, try to actually win the fight from the opening bell. That's why we like them so much more, but not neccessarily hate the Klit's.
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mavrovic and Tua had granite chins. Ibragimov was knocked down by Ray Austin and Haye was knocked down by Mormeck, Mock and Barrett.

    Pretty huge difference.

    Are you saying Wlad couldn't have done what Austin did?
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Working with Mayweather was the worst thing Ibragimov ever did. It made him cautious.

    Why do you keep repeating that line about Chapman to me? If Wlad dominates for a decade, good for him. If he retires tomorrow, I wouldn't care. I'm not that bothered about Wlad.
     
  9. Joe_MacKenzie

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    The referee or Briggs corner should have stopped that fight. It was a terrible one-sided beating. Vitali doesn't punch as hard as he used to, but his boxing skills are underrated.

    Those boxers all have lower KO percentages than the Klitschkos! People are MUCH too hard on the K Bros for some reason - what's the REAL reason why you hate them?
     
  10. BunnyGibbons

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    :lol: Why don't you just answer for him.
     
  11. Joe_MacKenzie

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    Tua was KOed by Felix Savon in the amateurs. Age 17 Ruslan Chagaev defeated Savon, and went the distance with him several times after that. Yet Wlad gave Ruslan his first knockdown ever, as an amateur or as a pro.

    Why couldn't Foreman do what Cooper and Wepner did to Ali?

    You are making FAR TOO MUCH of the flash knockdown by Austin, who was MUCH bigger than Sultan, who was a blown-up cruiserweight. Sultan had a good chin. Over the years, people who hate East European boxers always bring up that flash knockdown from the Austin-Ibragimov fight.

    Muhammed Ali was knocked down by Cooper, Frazier and Wepner. He was hurt far worse by the Cooper knockdown than Sultan was by the Austin knockdown. Wepner appears to me to have had poorer boxing skills than Austin, and was smaller - people who hate Wlad always bash Austin since Wlad beat him so easily, but Ray isn't as bad as you haters say.

    Jack, you are truly despicable. Your admiration of black boxers turns to vicious hatred when they lose to Wladimir. I honestly think you are mentally ill.
     
  12. Champion

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    Haye and Ibragimov came to survive only. They were so afraid of Wlad it was ridiculous.

    Mavrovic was a comeplete nobody. A Eurochamp. And he gave Lennox a tough fight. Tua is a limited midget and big Lennox was on his backfoot for 12 rounds couldnt get him out of there. Speaking of huge advantage and still stinking out the joint. That fight was a ppv borefest with people booing.

    Bring Wlad someone who comes to fight and he knocks him the F out.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What kind of argument is that, you stupid ****? Why mention Tua when he was 17 or Chagaev? What planet are you on?

    Ali's chin greatly improved. A better question would be "Why couldn't Foreman do to Ali what Frazier did?" and the answer would be "Because Frazier was a better puncher".

    As for the Wepner knockdown, I suggest you watch the fight, moron.
    Wlad was also much bigger than Ibragimov. Why couldn't Wlad, who is a huge heavyweight, knock down Ibragimov who should have been a cruiser, when Ray Austin could?
    Ali has nothing to do with this. Nothing at all.
    I'm mentally ill? Who is the weirdo who has been stalking another poster? You've been searching through my posts and Shaunster's. Who is the weird **** who doesn't understand sarcasm, satire or anything else, and says things like "I'm Joe McKenzie of the McKenzie clan"?

    You seem autistic and I'm not even kidding with that.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By the way, I ****ing hate the argument you just posted. I said something about Wlad and then you reply with an argument about Ali? I'm tired of reading that awful comeback from morons like you.
     
  15. Joe_MacKenzie

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    You are mentally ill. No one is stalking you. You have a sick obsessive hatred for Wladimir Klitschko, similar to mark Chapman's obsessive hatred for John Lennon.

    I shudder to think what you'll do some day. :-(

    You were "shook" by that argument? :lol: :rofl

    You get upset when people point out your double standards?