Vitali Will Have Problems with Haye

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  1. rorik_bender

    rorik_bender Bellhop. Full Member

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    Always happy to help. In order for Haye to reach Vitaly he will get overextended, countered and tugged all night until round 10 after which Haye will call it quits. All thanks to Vitaly low hands stance and effectiveness.
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Unless Haye chops him down with a consistant body attack and stay on the inside his leaping punching crap will get him KO ed by jabs ..
     
  3. BunnyGibbons

    BunnyGibbons Is Not About That Life Full Member

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    Is that legal?
     
  4. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Vitali workrate will probably win him the fight, Haye picks his shots with a few Hayemakers and alot of slipping per round. Vitali will take the centre of the ring, although being made to miss a few he will still outland Haye. Imo Haye is not a very good decision fighter in the sense he doesn't throw enough and is on the backfoot too much to look good for the judges. Against Wlad I also felt he had the equalizer and we all know about Vitalis chin
     
  5. godlikerich

    godlikerich Active Member Full Member

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    I certainly believe that Wlad is the far more technically sound fighter with a better defence than his brother. He is also faster, uses better feints, has a more effective jab and hits harder. But Vitali is physically stronger IMO and obviously takes a far better shot - which makes him more aggressive and inclined to take risks. Haye I think would find it FAR easier to hit Vitali but at the same time I feel Vitali, if he feels Haye's power and isn't discouraged, may walk Haye down late in the fight.

    Having said that, Vitali is 40 and in the Kevin Johnson fight looked tired late on due to his constant missing. Haye will make Vitali miss plenty (if he can make Wlad woefully inaccurate he sure can Vitali) and hit with him with hard shots. The problem is those shots may be few and far between, and/or won't hurt his man. This would lead to another wide decision loss, if he doesn't get knocked out by Vitali just walking him down.

    Would be surprised if Haye won by decision, less surprised if he bloodies Vitali's face up and stopped him to be honest. But whilst it might be more competitive than Haye-Wlad, I still think Vitali will be too big, too strong and too active for Haye, who relies on a few big shots KOing his man than winning rounds with lots of landed punches.
     
  6. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Styles makes fight - not this time.
    Haye faces the same, overall strength problem with Vitali except Vitali's overhand right to the temple is probably better weapon against Haye than Wlad's 1-2. He also matches Wlad's speed/fw with that 6th sense of his.

    Still I give Haye better odds this time because Vitali can boil up if the ko isn't about to happen on later rounds.

    Vitali UD.
     
  7. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good points! Vitali vs haye will be a cracking fight!:deal
    Its wladimir who made haye look that way! He fought a brilliant fight!
    Like chef said for wladimir fighting is like a chess game! wladimir controlled the game! But sometimes haye got through with some punches! i give him credit for that! he did more damage to wlad than any other fighter will ever do!
     
  8. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i always said haye would have a better chance against vitali..but he dosnt beat him..infact haye having more success landing on vitali will be his downfall..vitali tko
     
  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yup......it was obvious from the 2nd round that Vitali had NO ill intentions for Adamek.....he earned like an extra 3K for the extended advertising so that idea is out of the question.

    He had Adamek at any point he wanted him, but let of the gas every time Tomasz was dazed (even from the jab).

    He won't take it easy on Haye, not with all the shittalking and the tshirts, especially if Haye has some success countering and touching him. He'll be angry, and an angry Vitali makes for an unconscious Haye.:D
     
  10. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    i agree vidic,imo haye would beat vitali.lol at some guys posting vitali ko haye,if wlad couldn't ko him,no way vitali is going,he is way slower and punches way weaker
     
  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Yeah and Haye was going to knockout Wladimir but proceeded to loose 12 rounds in a row.

    Whats left of haye fans talk up his "defense" in the wlad fight. Yeah he ran, that was effective at not getting KTFO but not so effective at being able to win a single round.
     
  12. aka TORA

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    this fight should be great i agree with the people that said workrate will be the decisive factor
     
  13. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Most of that is on but I dont think vitali's defense is worse than wlads. Wlad has improved his a lot under steward but vitali has always been naturally very hard to hit clean. Haye will have problems landing on him. Haye is fast but sloppy, vitali will be able to slip and counter him.
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    "Allow it." :lol:
     
  15. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The likelihood of Haye giving Vitali big problems, is about the same likelihood of them fighting each other in March. That is, it's not going to happen.

    Vitali is fighting in Feb, and Wladimir in March.

    Against Haye it's personal for Vitali. You see...Vitali really has a deep desire to KO Haye, to finish him.

    Vitali will come in there to fight and destroy Haye...that's my opinion anyway.