JMM using Pac to get recognition?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    truth
     
  2. EnterTheDragon

    EnterTheDragon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto @ 147 TKOs/KOs Juan
    Clottey @ 147 TKOs Juan
    Margarito @ 147 TKOs Juan
    Hatton @ 140 loses by UD to Juan
    Mosley @ 147 TKOs/KOs Juan

    STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.

    I - Draw
    II - Pac
    III - Pac

    Juan duckin' Morales, Khan, and Rios.
     
  3. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he beat Pac i dont know how is that using him:D
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    P4P:

    1. Mayweather
    2. Marquez
    3. Pacquiao

    Deal with it :deal
     

  5. i see your still making silly little videos
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    TROLL! Typical Pacquiao fan blah blah... They just don't give a **** about anything else.

    Yeah, JMM piggybacks off of guys success by beating them.

    He has gotten the majority of his recognition by, in most eyes for all three fights, going 3-0 or 2-0-1 against Pac. Sad but true. Everybody's deity that is Pacquiao has had more "bad" performances than one can count on one hand. ATG? Yes. Top 20? No. Current P4P #1? No. It took JMM to show all the crazy wackjob people this.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Food for the troll... Have fun!

    The Marquez from part III who won 7-8 rounds vs. Pacquiao!!!

    You f'd up the weights, but I'll give you a breakdown of how JMM from the third fight deals with the guys Pac fought on the night Pac fought them.

    Hatton @ 140 loses via TKO to JMM
    Cotto @ 145 loses via SD to JMM
    Clottey @ 147 loses via UD to JMM
    Margarito @ 150 loses via UD to JMM
    Mosley @ 147 loses via UD to JMM


    I- Draw or Marquez close or Pacquiao close
    II- Marquez close but clear
    III- Marquez close but even clearer
     
  8. Vsec

    Vsec Active Member Full Member

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    He's like 38 and is fighting in a weight class that's not natural for him. He knows he doesn't have much time left in the sport so he only wants the best.
     
  9. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well if it aint the legendEry Isal. Heeey hooooomz, vatos locos por liiife! They givin u xtra internet time at San Quentin?
     
  10. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Just ban the troll already. Contributes nothing to the forum. Clearly doesn't watch boxing.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I'd say beating the P4P number 1 is better than having beat the man who beat the P4P number 1 and not doing much else in between a series of vacations. According to the way I scored that fight, I'd have it

    Marquez
    Pacquiao
    Floyd

    In any case:

    He beat a prime Orlando Salido, who just recently dethroned Juan Manuel Lopez for his championship-something many say was an accident waiting to happen, but that no other featherweight was able to do.

    He made well-ranked Robbie Peden vomit from a body punch with only one loss prior and stopped him in the tenth in a lopsided fight.

    He dominated Rocky Juarez, a highly ranked fighter who gave the undeniably great Barrera one of his tougher career challenges.

    He decisively beat Victor Polo, a man who was only beat unanimously 3 times, twice by two other eventual Marquez victims-Medina and Derrick Gainer, all top-tier champion-level fighters of their division.

    He was the first to stop Casamayor when he was at the top of the Lightweight Division. Past it, but still better than anyone else at the weight.

    He should have been given the decision against World Champion Chris John, who today remains unbeaten.

    He should have been given the decision against World Champion Freddie Norwood. Robbery.

    He beat Marco Antonio Barrera who was past it but possessed the elite skills to give a great fight after he was making a good case for a comeback trail and Pacquiao rematch in the Juarez rematch.

    He was the first to stop rising star and top-ranked Juan Diaz who fought the fight of his life in the best of shape against a visibly aged and out-sized Marquez.

    He demolished top-ten ranked fighters Terdsak Jandeang and Jimrex Jaca.

    He then stopped his Lightweight Championship mandatory, underrated contender Michael Katsidis, at a point in his career where he was more technically developed as a swarmer and spiritually driven by the death of his brother. Katsidis was good enough to do what a welterweight Pac could not, and Marquez outclassed him from that point on.

    Without Pacquiao, he'd be an arguable All Time Great based on the consistency with which he's fought top-level fighters nearly always prime and on their A Game (something which, as great as Pacquiao and Floyd are, can't always be said), and on top of it all half of these wins came years past his physical prime and past his best natural weight.

    His fights with Pacquiao are just validation that his career is an embodiment of underrated but consistently proven technical greatness. 3 versions of Pacquiao, and he arguably beat them all. Even if you had him losing the first two, he just beat him at a point in Pacquiao's career when he seemed invincible. If you can't concede he was the better man in the ring that Saturday night, then your bias speaks for itself.


    Marquez's storied career accomplishments did not start, or end, with Manny Pacquiao.
     
  12. Lionheart

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    He looks good against pac because of his style but, to be honest he would lose to others fighters that does not bull rush like pac.
     
  13. maddog12

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    It really ****ing annoys me. I have nothing against pac but I can't wait till he retires now. Some of his fans think pac is boxing.

    Jmm has a long list og great accomplisments. Just read


    Edit: Great post Bogotazo:thumbsup
     
  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    he plans to quit soon and at his age who else is left

    he could take a pay cut and beat a guy like Rios or Soto and get very little credit for that

    or he could fight Manny or Floyd the 2 best and just above his level

    he has no chance vs Floyd who took him to school

    but he got jobbed vs Manny last time out

    so do the math
     
  15. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    There won't be a ******* reply to this. Great post.