Pacquiao is over rated, really?

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  1. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bigger men he fought were not at there natural fighting weight. This is what takes the glory away from the win. Cotto was a good win, but couldn't Pac have done that at 147 instead of a couple of pounds less then that. De la Hoya and Marg drained from there natural fighting weight. By the time Pac met Mosley, Pac was an already established welter weight. Considering Mosley decline, age and back to back poor performances, the fight shouldn't of never even happened. Add all of the above to the same style fighters he's always put against and I would say he is overrated. He's a good brawler, but when he put against diversity (Marquez) then suddenly Pac luster loses it's shine.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    He's grossly overrated by fanboys, but highly discredited by attackers. Sure a good number of his resume's names have their flaws going into their fights, but compiling such a list of names across 7/8 weight-classes is a monumental accomplishment. It's impossible for Pacquiao to have very few viable competitors out there right now by sheer luck, entering the game and rising just at the time his opponents would be old or weakened or without a proper corner for a whole decade. He does his job, and he does it well.
     
  3. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I think he's got decent skills but I can live with this;

    kind of like how Jones' athleticism was placed on a pedestal much more so than his underrated skills
     
  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I dont believe that, not always that might have been the case with mosley and marg but people gave cotto and hatton a very good shot.
    Had margarito won people would have said cotto was tailormaide for him.
     
  5. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    funny how most people on esb picked him to lose against de la hoya (at 147) , hatton (post mayweather), and cotto (at 145) they were ALL TOO BIG :nut

    Give the lil asian dude a break. Its sad because im pretty god damn sure it has somethin to do with his race.
     
  6. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Where were those excuses before the fights?

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80967


    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108475

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    PC: Was coming down to 145 tougher than you thought it would be since you hadn’t weighed 145 or less since 2006?

    MC: I felt really good at that weight. It wasn’t a problem for me.
     
  7. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is over rated by some because he has been put such on a high pedastal in the last 2 years.. When people say he is the best in the history is an example considering the last 100 years of boxing where guys have 100 fights under their belt.
     
  8. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    I'll concede that normally rational people picked Cotto over Pac. That's as far as I'm going. The only people I remember picking Hatton were either British or Teddy Atlas(Idiotish).
     
  9. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Ray Leonard has a total of 40 fights, 60 below 100 fights, and is a Top 10 ATG.
     
  10. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    This is true, people discredit him because of his fans acting he is the goat and because he is very much in the media nowaday, if he wasnt a superstar or outshining floyd for years everyone would love him like they do with morales.
     
  11. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has been a betting favorite in every fight since DLH. The "chances" he has been taking are carefully calculated.
     
  12. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Its not that weird, pac fights first fight at 135 after marquez 2 looks impressive vs diaz, people already wanted him to fight hatton then.
    Sure hatton lost vs floyd at 147 but he looked good at 140 and was considered a very good opponent for pac, after pac beat Oscar that changed to people thinking pac wins but hatton had a very good chance to win.
    It was either pac by ud/late tko or hatton ko, hatton was the bigger guy and thought of as a rough opponent, since pac only had beaten oscar above 135 and he looked so bad it was basically very possible for ricky to win.
    Nobody expected pac to win in such brutal fashion like he did.
     
  13. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    depends on who you ask. Same with every other fighter. You can't have a "fighter overrated" thread without naming who are overrating him because some overrate him, some underrate him.
     
  14. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    See the disparity between the Klitschko threads:yep
     
  15. BingM3

    BingM3 Active Member Full Member

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    He has balls to fight these fighters unlike your balls + PBF, still smaller than PAC's - owned:bbb