Would JMM have beaten the 140 lb and up guys Manny beat

This is an oxymoron.

You're just a moron.

 

aren't you the bozo who keeps repeating "styles make fights"

shame and clottey wouldn't have fought **** drinker the same way they would've fought manny, shame wouldn't have been trying to keep turningpiss drinker like he did manny and clottey would've tagged **** drinker like he did cotto

don't make me laugh about cotto and margarito possibly losing

i kno u aint a troll but dam u really ridin **** drinkers nutts on that 1

u know about comics, u know how superman whoops on everyone but has a hard time with metallo, but does that mean metallo can also whoop everyone else like superman can, no, y, cuz like u said, "styles make fights"

 

**** drinker,

**** drinker,

**** drinker.

Eat a dick ya *****

 

I think he would have a hard time with Clottey and maybe Mosley. Clottey fought scared against Pac so we really don't know what he could've done. If Mosley gasses early JMM has a chance. I don't think Cotto's power is the same at 145. I give JMM a good chance to outbox him at that weight. Marg is terrible against anyone with skills. His power is vastly overrated ever since he came off his suspension. JMM would not knock him out but the fight would be similar to JMM-Diaz.

In order to be the man you must beat the man. Marquez has done that. In my book Pac has the better resume but JMM has better skills.

 

You're a clever fella, aren't you? :roll:

 

Your timeline is off. When he fought Diaz, none of those fighters at 140 were available, and he fought Katsidis because he was his championship mandatory; those belts help his negotiating power for Pacquiao and I doubt he'd give them up to fight a shot Shane or overrated Berto under probably less than favorable conditions. when he could save a probably irreversible weight-gain for a worth-while fight against the P4P number one.

How is it he can trouble Manny but not feasibly challenge any of the fighters Manny beat? Mosley was shot to **** and would not have done a thing. Cotto is a good even fight, and the one that fought Manny was very open to technical dissection, off balance and with an open guard. Why would Hatton have gone to the cards? Land frequently enough and he'll fall; Marquez would be landing inside counters and combinations all night right on the chin as the more accurate puncher. Margarito is a challenge due to style and size, but if Pacquiao could **** him up going backwards, imagine what JMM would come up with as the superior defender and natural counter-puncher. Clottey, well, it depends on which one shows up; I doubt he can out-volume Marquez. DLH was also too weak to challenge the Marquez that fought Manny.

When you break it down, it's not hard to see at all. But of course for someone who refuses to even call a great fighter by his name, what can you expect but broad generalizations ?

 

atsch

 

Hatton is about it, and that's' no guarantee. That's a tough fight for him. Clotto, Margo, Cotto and the rest are too big.

 

Some of these guys Bogo.. atsch


No respect.

 

wow....LOL. you know jack **** about boxing

 

On this forum, apparently everybody beats Hatton.

 

Coulda woulda shoulda....why didn't he campaign at welter then? Wasn't he chasing Pac these past few years? If he could compete with true welters, wouldnt that have been more convenient? He would've been making more money too. Did JMM's business adviser graduate from some online school or something?

JMMs a great technical fighter no doubt, but quit strokn that dudes dick. He physically just cant match up. At a certain point whatever stylistic advantage he may have becomes less of a factor when yor givin up 15-20 lbs and they're just walking thru yor punches...law of diminishing returns. On the other hand, Pac's success at welter is predicated on the premise that he didnt lose much speed or power. In fact u can logically assume that pac's speed disparity against bigger fighters actually increased. Factor in his offensive prowess than you got someone well equipped to succeed at welter.

The point is JMM's success against Pac has absolutely no bearing on how he'd do against true welters....what should be transparent though is that his his lack of physicality does, ie he's too damn small and he aint that fast. While JMM may be more skilled technically, Pac's overall talent and attributes is more dynamic than JMM. In short, Pac can overcome significant size handicaps and has proven it. For JMM it's all fanboy speculation and if given the chance, would prolly get hurt.

For the record, I could kinda see him edging out Hatton if his body holds up for 12.

 

If JMM could have beat Cotto, Oscar, Hatton, Margarito, then him and his camps are absolutely fools for never making these fights. His career was so badly managed, that JMM fans have to speculate how he would have done against all the great fighters in his era around his own weight.

JMM resume is great only because of his trilogy with Pac. Take out Pac and his resume is not so great. There is just few great wins. Barrera was clearly on the downside when JMM beat him.

 

Cotto would be tough but I think he beats all the others.

 

Except for Tommy ****in Hearns, obviously...

atsch