Seth Mitchell and the current Heavyweight era

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by conraddobler, Dec 12, 2011.


  1. Black2023

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    Another thing imagine if you took out the eastern europeans for one second and the cubans.


    Chris Arreola would be 34-0 (most likely a champion)
    Eddie Chambers 36-0 (most likely a champion)
    Tony Thompson 36-1 (most likely a champion)

    J. Banks would be 27-0-1 an unbeaten up and comer
     
  2. Capt Howdy

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    It says that a big strong HW caught Timur with a hard shot, and then punched him in the mouth until the ref stopped the fight.

    Sounds like something that could happen in any HW fight, in any era. This is the HW division, one punch can change a man's fortunes.
     
  3. Black2023

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    That more reasonable from you, also remember the toughest and best fighter on an NFL team, would most likely not be who you think it would be. It might be the backup wide receiver, or could well be the star Ray Lewis...or it might be the 5'9 200 pound dude you havent even seen play.
     
  4. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So in your opinion it was a fluke and if they rematched Timur would very likely win?
     
  5. Capt Howdy

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    If Timur approached the rematch with a better gameplan, yes. He has more experience and has been around long enough to know better. So yes, he should have won the first fight, and should win a rematch.

    That is of course unless he gets tagged hard again. Everyone has a plan until they get hit. Seth seems to have the kind of power that changes things.
     
  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I bet the oddsmakers would strongly disagree with you. But I appreciate the honesty. You are advocating the "fluke theory" of Seth Mitchell's recent win, which I don't think is quite right.
     
  7. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The heavyweight division is terrible. This is not news to anyone other than Klitlickers trying to pretend their lovers are dominating a stellar division. Limited green guys like Seth Mitchell being able to go as far as they do is a testament to this.
     
  8. Capt Howdy

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    Fluke is a logical assumption for now. We won't know until we see him fight more. He could get schooled by next his opponent, or he could KO his next opponent.

    At this point, we just don't know. Maybe it was a fluke, maybe he really is that good. Time will tell. I just know I'll be watching to find out. :good
     
  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Man bull****...please point out the 20 year period you are referencing, I will do the leg work.
     
  10. Black2023

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    Name the top ten heavyweights of all time please...
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    name the capital of Uzbekistan.
     
  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Breh...it's not rocket science, some fighters depend on "craft/skill" hence they may need the years and years of experience. Some depend on athletic ability and may or may not need the "years and years of experience" to become competitive. He is athletically superior and his athletic ability, mixed with what skills he does have, is enough to generate wins at this point in his career.

    It's also important to consider he is used to being coached, he is used to being coached hard...he's used to training hard, obviously he's a gym rat. In hearing him speak he's obviously a pretty humble man and is a willing pupil, so I'm not sure what you're so amazed about. Boxing allows for an equalizer, HEAVY HANDS, some people have it...some don't. If you have heavy hands, awesome athletic ability, and are willing to put in the work to learn and perfect your craft...yeah you can be a winner pretty quickly.
     
  13. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Totally agree with what you said.

    My point is a little different. Heavyweight boxing should already be saturated with guys with heavy hands and awesome athletic ability. There should be no room for a novice like Seth Mitchell to make any headway whatever.

    The fact that Heavyweight boxing isn't saturated with athletic guys with heavy hands tells us something about the current state of the sport.
     
  14. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    To the TS, how are you arriving at the conclusions that Mitchell is so limited and sub par? What specifically have you seen that makes you feel this way, maybe you have some video's to support this?
     
  15. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    would you like the medical report in pdf format or should I scan it in and fax it to you?