If you could be, would you be a Journeyman Boxer?

I wouldnt do it no ****in way. Ignorant ****s taking the **** outta you all the time. **** that ****. World class fighters get ripped to pieces if they get stopped, imagine what it would be like for a fella who loses all the time. The lads down the boozer would have a ****in field day!!

 

Nah, I'm soft nowadays mate

 

Considering most 'lads down the pub' are savvy enough to know even a journeyman could smash their head in, I don't think that'd be as much an issue as you and others are thinking it might be

 

I dont think that works with alot of boxers though unless you were at a decent level. A fighter like Robbie Deakin or Ryan Clarke would never get respect off people looking for a streetfight. I mean no ****in meathead is going to back down from a lad with with 40 plus losses are they? Cage fighters are different though. If some **** was squaring up to a lad and one of his mates mentioned he was a cage fighter the **** would definatly think twice about fighting him. It wouldnt matter if he had 100 losses in a cage its still the fact that he fights in one that would put some one off. Just sayin thats the attitude around my way.

 

Fair enough, those foolish enough to **** with Deakin might find he laughs at their abysmal attempts at fighting and knocks 'em silly regardless.

I agree with MMA though. Just knowing that he'll be able to take you down and have it over and finish you in seconds (or smashing you with knees and elbows) is not worth ****ing about with

 

Helllllll No. Not enough reward for such a tough, mentally and physically demanding sport.

1. I'm sure most people here have heard of the famous stat that over 80% of boxers have some form of brain damage. Symptoms sometimes don't manifest for years after retirement. For a journeyman who is not as talented as the elite guys, he's gonna be taking a lot more punishment.

2. Too much corruption.

3. It's a lonely sport. It's a niche sport in this country, and you may have a great team around you but when you're in the ring you don't have team mates, it's all down to you.

I was working a 9 to 5 job and then going to the gym straight after. It was fun but then became a chore. After a while all I wanted to do after work was go get a beer but I was going to this dead out gym, with a trainer like Roger Mayweather who I could hardly understand. I felt the trainer was not allowing me to box naturally. Just trying to turn me into some textbook robot. I was the only small guy there, sparring against these big ****s. Sparing could be fun, but it was very demanding. Training was becoming a chore and I just thought "**** me. What am I putting myself through this for?" "what reward am I going to get?" "Will it be worth the sacrifices?". I don't have much passion for it. My trainer wanted to put me on his show. I never fought, either amateur or pro, so I can only imagine it would be a very, very tough life. Football was and always will be my first sport, boxing just something I thought I might dip my toes into, but I figured I didn't have enough passion for it.

Like all boxing fans, I have had the fantasy of becoming a boxing superstar. Earning millions of pounds, becoming a household name, but to reach this level, hard work and dedication is not enough. You also need a whole lot of luck and a whole lot of elite level talent.

If I was a journeyman I would possibly have to work a regular job to get by, then go to training after a hard days work in the office, train my ass off, go to some leisure centre in some shithole of a city where everyone in the crowd wants me to get KTFO. I'd go the pub to drown my sorrows and some **** would call me a bum because I lost. You gotta have some obsessed, ****ed up passion for this sport to go through all that. Then at the end of my career who knows how much damage I would have taken. I used to think that boxing related deaths/brain damage doesn't happen much to small guys. But if you look at the list of all the people who have died from boxing, there are quite a lot of featherweights and smaller on the list. To take such a risk the reward needs to be a lot greater.

That's why I have a lot of respect for these guys, but as for me personally, **** that, there are much easier ways to make much better money.

 

I don't think it would put off the real nasty, cunning street rats to be honest. There is always the whole "I want to be able to brag that I beat the **** out of a boxer or MMA fighter" thing. Like a trophy win. Plus these hardened streetfighters have too many tricks up their sleeve for these guys that only have gym experience and not street experience. Eye gouges, head stomps, blindsiding, outnumbering, pulling a weapon and what not will take care of even a great martial artist real quick.

 

Yeah, this is true. Okay, a genuine fighter with these kind of credentials, even at a really low level (let's say for arguments sake he's 2-8 as a pro', or summat) would know how to pull off far nastier **** if he had to.

Head stomps? Any self-respecting man training in MMA should be clued up on those ;-)

 

Mate if you're interested in this kind of thing, check out a book called violence blunders and fractured jaws by Marc Macyoung. His, and Geoff Thompson's books are really good for getting an insight into the mind of street toughs.

 

Umm...to be perfectly honest with you I'm pretty well versed with this particular brand of violence from my own life mate. Have always been around it and come up with some f'n nutters

I kinda' study their psychology myself. I certainly couldn't say with any confidence that I'm 'hard' but I've seen some people that prove that if you're willing to go the whole way you're a force to be reckoned with regardless of stature, strength of technical nous.

Still, I'd expect a smart, trained fighter to smash them to bits relatively quickly nonetheless if they're not using tools.

 

I would but TBA keeps taking other's fights!

 

That must be the hardest way to make a living - your main goal to avoid being knocked out on a weekly basis

 

Just watching Deakin, Dunno how these lads do it.

 

Not in a million years and my area is pretty much the same as jonnytightlips area, they would rip the **** out of you something chronic. If you gave some cheek back aswell, they wouldn't think twice of having a go back, even Noel Wilders, the former British Bantamweight champion whos from my town has had a few good hidings in the past.

 

I was thinking the same thing, fair play to them though they have a certain mentality that I just can't understand fully, although they can hold their heads up high they must question themselves at times?