Is Jones the biggest LHW of all time?

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  1. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're not even going to bother to read all of the responses in the thread that you started?
     
  2. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're confusing the weight that he cut from with the weight that he started camp at. Bisping came into his camp for the Miller fight really out of shape. I'm not sure how much weight he cut, but given the fact that he couldn't make weight on the first attempt, it was probably a lot.
     
  3. Lynchburg

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    No you are.

    Stage one of the weight cut starts the day you start to slim down from whatever weight you are at.

    The final stage is when you dry your body out. This stage is not what weightcutting is all about. You should aim to be as close to the fight weight as possible before entering this stage.

    For example a 185lb fighter will start this last stage at around 190-200lbs on average. I'm not sure where Bisping started this last stage but it looked like it may have been more than 200lbs!

    He started at 236lbs and got down to 186lbs. As a guess i'd say he was around 200lbs for the fight...

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  4. EL BULLY

    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones is deffo the LHW with the biggest upper body of all time. His legs are so thin he carries nearly all his weight above the belt. If he had normal legs he'd weigh about 220.
     
  5. horst

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    In terms of his dimensions, yes. In terms of weight, probably not. However, he uses his size better than anyone else ever has.
     
  6. Thom

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    "Weigh cutting" is achieved through dehydration. Losing body fat during a training camp by means of exercise and caloric restriction is completely different. The first stage of the "cut" starts when fighters reach their target weight after training. Then, they use all of the tricks to get water out of their bodies before the weigh ins (i.e. saunas, running in sauna suits, salt baths etc.).

    BTW LOL @ all of the people who voted "yes" in this poll in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
     
  7. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, he's not even close.

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  9. afterglow

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    No, he's just a lazy fat ass.

    Being fat is different than being the guy with a ton of muscle, that has to make a huge water cut to make weight.

    I think Mike Whitehead was like 284 or somethin like that 8 weeks out from his fight with Babalu at the first Affliction show, but that was just fat.
     
  10. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Calm down Puss cake! I missed the post that said John cuts from 215-220! Easy now Sweet pea! :hat
     
  11. Lynchburg

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    Well let's just agree that you see things one way and i see them another :deal

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  12. Thom

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    I'm just pointing out facts. Fighters "cut weight" by dehydrating themselves. Just because Bisping who, to use your original example, came into camp for the Miller fight weighing well over 230 pounds because he was fat doesn't mean that he "cut" 50 pounds to make weight.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

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    There is a big difference between cutting weight from a muscled 225 and a fat 235. I think this is your point and I agree.

    For example A.Silva walks around big and people like to highlight how he is huge and cuts loads but like your point suggests this doesn't suggest he dehydrates from that weight.
     
  15. horst

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    Tito Ortiz, Forrest Griffin, Stephan Bonnar, Jon Jones - the biggest lhw's.

    Wanderlei Silva, Dan Henderson, Lyoto Machida - smallest.

    Rashad used to look pretty small for a lhw as well, but he has bulked/muscled up significantly this year I think.