What the hell was the gameplan for Froch

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Joe Ko!, Dec 18, 2011.


  1. Joe Ko!

    Joe Ko! Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Heard all this before about Rob McCracken being a great trainer but in all honesty Bika and Abraham did better vs Ward than Froch did last night.

    "Boxing" Ward was never going to work and they should have known that.
     
  2. MATTYS

    MATTYS Active Member Full Member

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    Froch to slow ,i would beat him if i had a rematch ,beat him my arse
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    What does a gameplan mattered when yor opponent is better than everything than you are and has the perfect skillset to completely nullify you?
     
  4. Joe Ko!

    Joe Ko! Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The gameplan matters because Froch is better than Bika and Abraham who did better than he did.
     
  5. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Have you considered that Ward may have fought better then he did in those fights??
     
  6. Joe Ko!

    Joe Ko! Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He could well have been, but its like Peterson, Froch and team should have realised after the first couple that what they were doing was not working at all and just gone for it. Froch only went for it in the last round.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Styles make fights. Bika more adept at strong, roughhouse fighting and Abraham just more tight in the early going.

    Wars trounced those guys as well, weren't close contests either.

    My point is not whether or not they had a gameplan, which is was you seem to be implying. If they'd had 'the greatest strategy ever' Froch would not have beaten Ward because he just isn't capable of pulling it off.

    -Slow
    -Telegraphs punches
    -Sloppy punching form
    -No defence
    -Little in the way of inside fighting ability.
    -Only a fair dig

    It would be very hard to pick out major flaws in Wards makeup.
     
  8. Joe Ko!

    Joe Ko! Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have you watched the Bika fight? its was competitive and close ish

    Our Brit fighters just have the inability to adapt, not saying either Froch would have won, but maybe do himself more justice and make it a bit less of a shut out.
     
  9. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did better than Kessler though.

    Anyway, as the old saying goes, styles make fights.
     
  10. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    It was hardly another case of haye/Wlad. Froch did his all, he only had a bit of success when Ward tired.
     
  11. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Froch's only chance was to land a well placed shot during the fight, hopefully daze Ward and get in for the kill. Basically he had a punchers chance and that was it.

    Stylistically Ward was always going to be his worst nightmare. I stated through the week that Ward would beat him with inside fighting because he has the better inside game. Nothing last came as a surprise and shouldn't have to anyone.

    Anyone who had bothered their arse to watch the Green fight knew this, apparently this didn't include the entirety of the Sky team. Who spent the fight in bemusement that Ward was rough housing Froch and smothering. I was getting so annoyed by Jim Watt I had to turn the sound of by about the 5th round.

    As Flea Man said, Ward is simply a better fighter in every area. He is very adaptable and will box and move or get in close and rough you up to suit and he is very good at both. I've been saying it since after the fight with Green (which I saw as a masterclass at the time while loads on ESB moaned at his "dirty fighting") that this guy is p4p one of the best out there and a future big star in boxing.
     
  12. Jasper Simone

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    The Sky commentary was awful. Watt acting astounded at how Ward could control things on the inside. It was as if they had never seen Ward box before.
     
  13. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    I really can't listen to Jim Watt these days, his voice irritates the **** out of me and when he has a hard-on for one guy in the fight, it's like that's the only guy he can see.

    "Oh look at this marvellous stuff from Ward, this is absolutely fantastic stuff, who would have thought a man could be so great in the ring, I honestly think we should all be fingering our bums while watching this ... not just me"

    On and on and on it goes ... **** off Watt. :fire
     
  14. Flea Man

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    At least we didn't have Smith with his 'is this guy a boxing genius' bollocks
     
  15. Bill C84

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    I honestly had to turn the sound off when I watched this watched it this morning, mainly due to Jim Watt.