Explain why Andre Ward isn't in your top 5 P4P?

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  1. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really wanna know who, and how can someone argue that this guy isn't pound 4 pound top 5. Who was the last guy to dominate a top class fighter in their division.


    Came out the super six with his record in tact.

    Please put what country you represent by your response.


    Thanks
     
    Round1gymDC, Dec 18, 2011
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  2. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because if beating Froch put you in the top fight then Kessler would be there too.

    Clearely top 10 though
     
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  3. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But how about beating Froch, and Kessler?

    Those are two different style of fighters
     
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  4. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    He is.
     
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  5. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cuz Bute is better.
     
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  6. 17brandiff

    17brandiff Member Full Member

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    Ward is actually my No.2 P4P fighter right now.
     
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  7. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he is boring and colorless. Nothing exciting about his wrestling. It would be a good idea for him to step out of his backyard and see the world around him. Plus he is so poor at KOing opponents. Even flyweights have better KO ratios.
     
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  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because Floyd, Pac, Marquez, Donaire, Wlad, and Martinez all have a better a claim to a top 5 ranking as Andre does right now IMO. He's definitely a P4P fighter now, but he he's not in the very highest rung of it yet.
     
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  9. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both wasn't in the top 10 P4P.

    I think Ward is 7-8 , if he beat Bute i would definitly consider him in the top 5 maybe top 3
     
    Badlok, Dec 18, 2011
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  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He makes my top 5, he's undefeated and unified a division while beating Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Maidana, Greene, Bika. That makes a pretty impressive unbeaten resume. I think he's certainly better than Martinez and I see him beating Martinez or Hopkins. The only other guys with arguments for top5 are Mayweather, Pacman, Marquez, Wlad, Donaire and Martinez. Martinez only lost a few fights ago and Wlad is a HW in a weak division, which is a drawback. Donaire should be above him right now though
     
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  11. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then you're biased

    Pac , PBF , Martinez , Wlad , have alle done better
     
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  12. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Martinez have been world champion in three different weight class
     
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  13. jso416

    jso416 F U Nutthuggers!!! Full Member

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    He is a good fighter, but he's being way overhyped by his sudden new legion of followers. If he beats Bute, then takes on and beats Hopkins I'd be impressed.. I like Ward, he is a very skilled fighter but he still has much to prove.
     
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  14. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd
    Pac
    Juan
    Sergio
    Donaire
    Ward

    If Ward beats Bute next, I'll move him up. What he has done is very very impressive, but I was more impressed by Sergio and Donaire's recent fights. (not the Barker fight in particular thought)
     
    bballchump11, Dec 18, 2011
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  15. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If he beats Bute, Dirrel etc he will be top 3 for sure.
     
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