Jorge Paez Jr. vs Omar Chavez RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    missed the third score..


    Jorge Paez Jr. wins by majority decision.
     
  2. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    How you could have more than 2-3 rounds for Chavez is beyond me.
     
  3. PinoyProdigy

    PinoyProdigy Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I only gave Chavez 1 round haha.
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    This was easily a UD for maromerito. The judge who had it 95-95 should get tarred and feathered. Wow just wow.
     
  5. Atlanta

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    So do you think Bob begins to liquidate Omar? Throw him in with Mike Jones or Antonio Margarito(especially if he is planning on feeding Margarito's corpse to JCC Jr., turn that fight into a family revenge fight)
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Quite possible.

    Jones would shut him out. Margarito might force the stubborn Chavezes to throw in the towel (Omar's chin is too sturdy for his own good, but he's impossible to miss; even more of a plodding punching bag than Tony).

    I think he'd lose badly (possibly by stoppage) to Victor Ortiz, Andre Berto, Jesus Soto Karass, Oyewale Omotoso, Jan Zaveck, Randall Bailey...pretty much anyone aggressive w/power in the top 30-40, let alone the top elites. He'd get outboxed by almost all the rest, the ones with less power and less overwhelming aggression. (ie Decarie, Hatton, Malignaggi etc.).

    It's actually quite shocking he made it almost 30 pro bouts without a loss given how little he's learned. Sure, he's only young (turns 22 in a couple of weeks) but he's been a professional since he was 16 and seems to have learned nothing except basic brawling.

    At least Julio Jr. slowly but surely evolved even before hooking up with Roach (by leaps and bounds since). He might have had an even easier early road than both his brother and father infamously did.

    Now that he's lost the zero (and any illusions about ever getting to even where Jr. is) there probably isn't anything stopping them from cashing him in as an in-house gatekeeper for the TR stable.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    Honestly, any and all rounds from the 2nd through the 7th could justifiably be scored 10-8 for Paez. (for a whopping final 100-85).

    It's really disturbing that Chavez wasn't saved by his family or the referee at any point in that span, whether boxing nobility or not.

    I see that name of the official isn't listed on the record. :think He'd be a likely candidate for DemolitionDan's "bad judges & referees" tracking thread.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Actual official scores:

    99-93 Paez
    99-93 Paez
    95-95 draw

    Even the two like cards are absurd. To arrive at those scores, they had to give Chavez 1 round and then give 2 even rounds (otherwise it would be 99-91, not 99-93).

    Outside of the 1st which was close until Jorge started shredding Omar's face in the last thirty seconds, and the 10th in which both were gassed and mostly just slapping each other like girls :)gayfight) every single round was a violent rout. Chavez had some brief moments in the 8th, but few and far between...and with the gaps spackled by his face getting shoe-shined.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    OK, this is really bothering me..

    Between the referee keeping his hands tied behind his back and refusing to wave it off, and that one judge having it a draw (???????) - this is more than a little suspicious. It reeks of corruption, and the Chavez family exerting undue influence to alter the outcome.

    It could also be a foreshadowing of what type of "course-correction" might happen if JCC Jr. ever appears in real danger of losing (possibly going a way towards confirming what some have already hinted at regarding his win over Sebastian Zbik...although personally I never thought before now that there was any foul play there...)

    Can anyone identify the ref by sight, or hear the judges' names? (very faint & low-quality audio, on top of being in Spanish):
    [yt]AZ5mtMyQCP8[/yt]

    As fishy as it gets.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Bear in mind while watching (in case the rest of it doesn't wind up getting uploaded), those are the three least brutally one-sided rounds... after Maromerito slowed down a bit and started landing less/getting hit more.

    Rounds 1-7 were pure ****. Omar couldn't block an air hockey puck with a paddle in each hand.

    38 year old JLC (who Paez beat not long ago) should use Omar for his farewell to the fans, and retire on a vintage performance landing like 80% of his punches against someone with a "name" of sorts.
     
  11. pahapoisu

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  12. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Someone on here, hell a year or so ago maybe longer said that the Chavez's approached one of the pros in his gym and tried to get a fixed fight set up for little Omar.
     
  13. Atlanta

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    I don't think its shocking he made it this far without a loss, they fed him literally garbage so far. I'm a bit surprised they sicked Paez Jr. on him though. Paez was a legit pro, not good, but he knew how to make a tight fist and throw a punch prior to the bout.

    As for where he could max out, he's done unless Jose Sulaiman makes him the International or Silver Belt champion and allows him to avoid any and all mandatory defenses.

    As for what would happen to Omar if he fought an elite fighter:
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    Not a happy ending.