Ward is better than Calzaghe, would beat Calzaghe, and will soon be the #1 SMW ever.

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  1. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your blinded by hero worship.
     
  2. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    and your completely objective yourself.:lol::patsch
     
  3. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His best win and practically his only good win and Ward has already duplicated the result. Mitchell was ready for the scrap yard when Joe faced him like every other hand picked opponent he faced. Guys like Reid and Lacy are typical run of the mill SMW's, typical of the weak division Calzaghe hid out in. Calzaghe is basicly at the same level as a guy like Danny Green. A good titlist but never good enough to make it into the history books. It's really disrespectful to Ward's abilities to compare him with a fighter like Calzaghe.
     
  4. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No i only deal in facts, Calzaghe beat multiple champions at the weight Froch didnt, it was obvious that Ward was going to outclass Froch [just like Calzaghe would have] as Froch is limited, Froch is not elite level, Ward out classed him, Kessler also beat him by a wide UD, obviously Calzaghe would outclass Froch [infact Calzaghe would beat Froch even now after being retired for 3 years], Bute would beat Froch, Taylor was beating Froch when he got knocked out with seconds to go, Direll would have beaten Froch in a venue other than Nottingham.
    Froch is a level below Calzaghe, Ward and Kessler.
     
  5. BlackBrenny

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    Why are we counting wins like Bika(who Calz beat more convincingly SHOCK HORROR!), Miranda and Abraham? are we forgetting they failed miserably in their super middleweight title fights?

    as for Allan Green...come on.. be serious.
     
  6. BlackBrenny

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    Reid a "run of the mill" SMW? he beat seven shits out of Ottke until he was repeatedly warned for punching Ottke in the face, so naturally lost confidence in the last few rounds (but was still robbed of an obvious KD and win)

    comparing Calzaghe to Danny Green...COME ON!!! criticise the guy if you must, but comparing him to ****ing Danny Green is rediculous
     
  7. MarkSe

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    A few things jumped out for me;

    1. Both fighters were scrappy
    2. Ward is a tecnical boxer, but he was throwing wide scrappy arm punches at times. His left hand (left hook) was the only real effective punch
    3. I'm not sold on his style, he is a little boring. Great ring generalship though
    4. Froch was so slow I could have out sped him
    5. Comparisons and talks of him being up there in the P4P are slighly premature. He's top 10 but he is no where near Pac man or Floyd right now.

    Over all I was a little dissapointed in the final, the quality of boxing was not what I hoped. But thats what Froch brings. Calzaghe would have schooled him much worse IMO.
     
  8. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "Joe Calzaghe: Why I Love you" by bailey. Available at Amazon.com for $29.95.

    Makes a great stocking stuffer!

    (note, a full third of the book is reprinted Boxrec tables. Another quarter is devoted to a rather lengthy biography of Mario Veit and his exploits both in and out of the ring)
     
  9. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    lol


    Mario Veit: Lion Tamer, Cold War Spy, Boxer, & Other Heroic Exploits all in the new Prentice-Hall novel "Joe Calzaghe - How Do I Love Thee? by Bailey Boxrec.

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    he is such the sad little man .. actually feel sorry for him for the most part
     
  10. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the greatest smw, ever nothing will change that. He also does not ram people with his head. Prime Joe would beat ward or Bute on points, too fast, too good.

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  11. REEVO

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    YOU SHOULD BE KICKED OF THIS SITE FOR COMPARING jOE.C TO DANNY GREEN. I HOPE YOU ARE BEING SARCASTIC, OR YOUR THE WORLDS BIGGEST ****..:fire
     
  12. bailey

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    :patsch.
    I will soon guide Rob the knob through it.
     
  13. Jordan_Davies

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    Calzaghe beat Bika a lot easier
    Calzaghe beat Kessler without controversey
    Calzaghe beat prime Reid, Mitchell, Brewer
    Calzaghe beat Sheika who beat a lot younger version of Glen Johnson that Froch did
    Calzaghe beat Hopkins who was the linear light heavyweight champ

    Ward Headbutted Kessler
    Beat up on Allan Green
    Struggled with Bika
    Struggled with Abraham for the first few rounfs
    Did a decent job against Froch

    So far Calzahge still wins hand to hand
     
  14. Taffyy

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    Nice Avatar Trampie.......;)
    Agree with you there. Ive grown to respect Froch recently (over the course of the ss) & imo his last 6-7 fights are as good a resume as is out there at the moment however despite respecting his balls & heart approach his skills at the very top level are found wanting a bit like Hatton actually. I think a prime JC would outwork Ward and take a close decision but thats all "what ifs" & as a boxing fan I can say I have alot of respect for Ward & I hope he goes on to dominate as he deserves too.
    A classy fighter & a genuine man
     
  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    got to give ward some credit where its due, he's done everything asked of him in a weak 168 era, he's shown a good versatility to his boxing.

    however, its way too early to compare him with calzaghe, ward could go on to lose his next 2 fights and then the opening post would look even more laughable than it does already. best to assess ward 5 years from now when he has fought different styles like dirrell, bute, degale etc, unified the division and fought away from home.

    the opening post was the equivalent of braindead cum swiller claiming that mike tyson was greater than muhammad ali after he had beat tony tucker.

    you have to let fighters earn their greatness over time and not throw it at them just because your a fanboy of ward and hate the current greatest supermid of all time because he beat your idol bernard hopkins.