If Ward beats Bute then moves up and beats Dawson

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by motorcity, Dec 19, 2011.


Page 1 of 2
  1. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,390
    0
    Mar 13, 2010
    How would you rate him P4P?

    Personally, I would place him at number 3 above Martinez
     
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    #1
  2. RazorHandz

    RazorHandz Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,507
    3
    Sep 21, 2010
    Who the fukk is Dawson? Dude needs to avenge his loss to Pascal, why are people talking about him like they still consider him a P4P fighter? He's not even a champion anymore, SMH.
     
    RazorHandz, Dec 19, 2011
    RazorHandz, Dec 19, 2011
    #2
  3. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,626
    0
    Feb 16, 2011
    move up to LHW?!...he doesn't even have power at 168, would be even worse fighting at 175.
     
    W1LLPARK3R, Dec 19, 2011
    W1LLPARK3R, Dec 19, 2011
    #3
  4. StWerburghs

    StWerburghs Active Member Full Member

    1,033
    14
    Mar 11, 2006
    Would also depend on what the other fighters in your list had done during that time.
     
    StWerburghs, Dec 19, 2011
    StWerburghs, Dec 19, 2011
    #4
  5. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,390
    0
    Mar 13, 2010

    That doesn't mean anything because Bhop doesn't carry much power at 175 and he's done exceptionally well even in his 40s. Ward had enough power to keep Froch and Kessler off him. Just because he isn't KOing guys left and right doensn't mean he doesn't have power. As a matter of fact, I believe he may be stronger at 175. I get the feeling that he's drained and looks like he walks around at 190-200 when he isn't fighting.
     
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    #5
  6. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,987
    2
    Jul 24, 2011
    Ward is already number 2 he still would not be a better fighter than Mayweather
     
    PrinceN, Dec 19, 2011
    PrinceN, Dec 19, 2011
    #6
  7. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,693
    1
    Jul 25, 2007
    Ward is already considered to be in the top 6 P4P rankings. So if he was to beat Bute and move up and beat one of the top 3 LHW - yeah - he would have to be moved into the top 5. However - it would depend on what the guys ranked ahead of him continue to do in the same time spand. It would be hard to move him up - if the guys ahead of him continue to do well.
     
    KayEpps, Dec 19, 2011
    KayEpps, Dec 19, 2011
    #7
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

    63,174
    24
    Oct 27, 2010
    He'd be competing for the p4p crown
     
    bballchump11, Dec 19, 2011
    bballchump11, Dec 19, 2011
    #8
  9. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

    24,478
    128
    Aug 13, 2009
    Than he can beat both Klit Brothers....build a time machine, and beat prime Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis..brilliant! Ward is the GOAT 4 SUREZ.
     
    The Mongoose, Dec 19, 2011
    The Mongoose, Dec 19, 2011
    #9
  10. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

    3,461
    12
    Sep 16, 2011
    Top 5 for sure. Ward almost looks like he could make 160. He'd be pretty small at LHW. Dawson would beat him though IMO.
     
    Heavy Handed, Dec 19, 2011
    Heavy Handed, Dec 19, 2011
    #10
  11. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,390
    0
    Mar 13, 2010

    I don't think so. Ward looked bigger than Froch IMO. Froch is just a shade taller. Ward is being drained. I was actually suprised how he looked next to Froch. Him and Dirrell won't stay at 168.
     
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    motorcity, Dec 19, 2011
    #11
  12. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,730
    0
    Aug 8, 2011
    If Ward clears out the S Mw division i would like to see him fight Martinez

    at MW and then fight Hopkins at Lt HW, If he does he's number 3 without

    question as far as iam concerned
     
    eazym1979, Dec 19, 2011
    eazym1979, Dec 19, 2011
    #12
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

    21,955
    3,312
    Apr 26, 2010
    Lol...he's lost one fight via technical decision, and has beaten Tarver II, Adamek, and Johnson II...dominated his division, and was P4P rated for extended period prior to the Pascal ****...other than that he's nobody.
     
    Reppin501, Dec 19, 2011
    Reppin501, Dec 19, 2011
    #13
  14. Tranquillity

    Tranquillity Active Member Full Member

    862
    0
    Sep 14, 2008
    +1
     
    Tranquillity, Dec 19, 2011
    Tranquillity, Dec 19, 2011
    #14
  15. Tranquillity

    Tranquillity Active Member Full Member

    862
    0
    Sep 14, 2008
    yeah, if he beats Bute and if he beats Dawson, he would have cleaned up.

    But you also need to take in account of what the others have done.
     
    Tranquillity, Dec 19, 2011
    Tranquillity, Dec 19, 2011
    #15
Page 1 of 2