Jerry Quarry ,Frazier's policeman?

It certainly appears so.

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It could be said that in a way, being that Joe never did meet Shavers or Lyle, not to say that Frazier was ever scared of these guys, but Quarry did take these guys out of the equation.

 

Joe had nothing impressive to say about Quarry at the post fight press confrence.

 

If so, he should have taken on Foreman for Frazier. He's have had an OK shot of winning that one, too.

 

The thing is, Quarry was supposed to be past it or washed up in those fights, and was brought in to be the "opponent" and set those guys up for larger fights. I don't think Quarry was specifically "Frazier's policeman" - more like the division gatekeeper, at least in the later stages of his career (basically taking up the mantle that Chuvalo had carried in the years prior to that).

 

Chuvalo was still the division gatekeeper at that time, so George fought (and beat) him instead.

 

To me, the one time Jerry clearly did this was when he knocked off Mac Foster, who otherwise might have gotten Bob Foster's shot at Smoke.

With respect to Shavers, Joe's final successful defense was against the only opponent to have knocked Earnie out at the time. (The Acorn's only win over a championship class adversary during Smoke's reign was his decision over Rondon in August 1972, three months after Stander challenged Joe. Earnie came along too late to be a viable title challenger prior to his actual shot at Ali in September 1977.)

Frazier was already a former champion when JQ defeated Lyle and Shavers.

If Jerry was anybody's policeman, it was Foreman's.

 

:goodgreat thread mcvey and yes you're right.fearless jerry wiped the floor with those bangers.top fighter was mr quarry

 

I don't know if it voluntary or involuntary.. I think it just worked out that way. Jerry made it to the top of the division on a few occasions by means of elimination of other contenders, the late 60's tourney being one of them. Not sure of this was strategically divised by promotors for the purpose of taking risks away from Frazier or not....

 

Quarry because of Style would have had a better shot at beating Foreman than Frazier and the Lyle and Shavers fights shows hints of why. Quarry had a solid chin but had trouble with speed and the notch above fighter like Ali and Frazier...the slow punchers could not beat Quarry, Jerry loved it when you came to him...Frazier did not tire and Jerry did so attrition was Frazier's friend and it was never Foreman's friend...not a sure thing George had championship heart but Quarry may have took Foreman a bit deeper than Lyle before he went for it. Quarry did remove a lot of proclaimed dangerous guys for Frazier but the chips fall where they may...Archie Moore also took some top guys out of contention for Marciano and Walcott for Louis and the Klitschko's for each other

 

Bummy, you are correct, speed is what killed Quarry (figuratively speaking). Frazier was a buzzsaw type that Quarry would have lost to 10 times out of 10. But the more ponderous puncher is who Jerry excelled against. I always say that the bane to every great puncher is a counter-puncher with a good jaw. Think Sanchez-Lopez, Nova-Baer, Castillo-Pimental, Lujan-Zamora and in this particular case, Quarry-Lyle/Foster/Shavers. He difinitely deserved that title shot while Foreman was wasting everyone's time with Joe Roman. A Foreman-Quarry fight would have been something in the fall of '73.

Scartissue

 

good examples Scar...and good post

 

Quarry specialized in Foreman type, although Foreman was better than Lyle or Mac Foster. I would pick Quarry over Foreman. Thing that scares me on Quarry is he sometimes lost his cool, like in first Frazier fight, and tried slugging it out. In rematch he just was flat. Quarry's biggest problem was inconsistency.