Has today's HW division ever been this good?

I agree. That is why I think Kell Brook is better than SRR. People think SRR is great and don't realise what a monster Kell Brook is from better medicine, nutrition, advances in the science of boxing and better training of today. If there were a fight tomorrow between a Prime SRR and Kell, Kell would beat him down in 2 rounds. But all the nostalgia and wot not blind them to the truth.

 

its pretty bad . u got 2 cruisers in the top u got tony thompson . a guy like chambers that never fight . a fraud in helenius . chisora who u never wut ur guna get as far is he gunna come in shape cuz he wasnt v fury.

fury is the only bright spot 2 me at the moment but hes not even that sweet n he has a lot of learning to do still in order to beat the bros

 

The main bad thing about todays HW landscape is that the K-bro's are that - brothers.

Imagine if Wlad and Vitali were fierce rivals.

 

you have 2 champions who'll never fight eachother, and then it's a huge difference between the rest, add the poor fact that none of the top contenders actually fight eachother, which would surely make interesting non- title fights, every top ten contender fights a couple of B class boxers, gets a K payday, and he's done, so in short, the division is in serious trouble

 

We're clearly living amongst a stacked division these days with two ATG's and host of worthy challengers. Quite clearly if anyone thinks this era is '****' he is without doubt some sort of **** with an agenda, plain and simple.

Vitali Klitschko
Wlad Klitschko
Byrd
Peter
Chagaev
Haye
Solis
Brock
Helenius
Valuev
Toney
Povetkin
Adamek
Ibragimov
Brewster
Sanders
Thompson
Chambers
Juan Carlos Gomez
Ustinov

The older fighters fighting at a high level past their best.
Rahman
Briggs

The next batch of dangerous young fighters.
Boystov
Wilder
Mitchell
Fury
Price
Gerber
Perez
Dimitrenko


If anybody thinks a good % of these names mentioned couldn't win a World title in a weaker era than this one then they must be on heroin or something. Yes true, some of these names may never match what ATG fighters like Henry Cooper achieved but to call the above '****' really just goes to show you don't even watch the division.



Let's look at the contenders facing each other outside of the ATG Klitschko brothers.

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And look what you see, cracking end to end fights against evenly matched opponents that swing one way then to the other just like "the good old days."

 

I believe Wlad and Vitali would be competative and strong in any era. The current group are bigger but would struggle to make the top 50 of Hwt chanpions and contenders of the past 50 years. The hwt division has always been thin in terms great fighters when compared to the lighter weights.

 

I definitely think new training methods and nutrition mean the quality of athlete CAN be better today than historically, but a couple of things stop that with the heavies. In the US, if you've got the build, you're not likely to be taking up boxing, you're playing american football or going to MMA. And then as Damian said - contenders don't fight each other these days like they used to. If you don't put yourself through regular, intense camps and then learn your craft against tough opposition in the ring you're not going to reach your potential. That's a fundamental issue with over protected heavyweight prospects today. Everyone is too scared to risk the '0' and put the Klitschko payday back by a few months and therefore their technique and experience is sub-standard when they get their shot.

 

Lewis never fought Bowe, Tyson never fought Bowe, Foreman never fought Holmes, back in the nonsense days Whites and blacks never fought each other etc........

 

Most of todays heavyweights cant go 12 rounds and forget 15, and Arreola Solis Chambers...rated high are flabby as hell so i dont know about that nutrition training etc. old Vitali is in much better shape than 95% of prime heavyweights!!!

 

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The HW division is ass right now.:rofl

 

Care to list examples when Arreola, Solis, Chambers lost because they ran out of gas in their respective fights?

 

Did i wrote they lost and run out of gas??? NO Can you tell me when the were fit?NO and dont tell me Chambers is, because i dont know how he is able to be flabby with 95 kg...
100 year old Holyfield look better than these 3 i mentioned and about 90% of HW fighters.