Why do you think Pacquiao even stands a chance of beating Mayweather?

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  1. Kydosan

    Kydosan New Member Full Member

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    Floyd probably beats him, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Pacquiao win by KO/TKO.

    I think he'll shock the **** out of Floyd in the early going, but Floyd's probably the most adaptable fighter I've seen and gifted as hell so there's every chance he'll figure out a winning strategy. The thing is though, Marquez has always had Pac's number, the rubber match wasn't a surprise, and it's worth remembering Pacquiao's still an absolute beast regardless. We know Marquez is the kind of guy that can get up from 3 KDs in the first round and keep his cool over the distance even as more knockdowns come, but is Floyd?

    Something I don't see brought up very often (at all?) is the way Floyd and his people were talking about Pacquiao when it first looked like they were on a collision course, they brought up all the PED talk because he was "knocking out all these big guys" etc - and it's worth stressing, they didn't just think he was good, they thought he was *too* good, and I think it's selling him short to judge him on Marquez III. Yes, he's only human, but we knew that already, we also know Floyd's never fought a fighter anywhere near Pac's level, this isn't some little ***** Floyd's just going to slap down, he's going to need to put in some serious work to keep that zero.

    But all that being said, I still think Floyd takes it... I'm maybe 60% sure of that :D
     
  2. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    :rofl

    This is why I asked for sensible and balanced Pacquiao fans, I'm genuinely interest in what tactics you believe Pacquiao should employ to get the job done.

    But no (and sadly as expected) I get some butthurt immature moron who dodges a question he is to porud to say he cant answer.
     
  3. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Difference in definition.

    My definition of boxer is someone who masters the fundamentals and textbook technical skills that are popularly taught.
     
  4. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If only there was a way that floyd could put to rest these rumors that manny is the btter fighter. Just some way that maybe he could show that he can beat manny:think
     
  5. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Explain your reasoning.

    Are Pacquiao fans this stupid that they cant answer a simple question or they have that little confidence in Manny and have no idea of the tactics he'd use to beat Mayweather.

    :patsch
     
  6. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    He didn't hurt Clottey, but apart from that he hurt bigger men who had been destroyed more so than Pacquiao did to them, in recent fights just before he fought them.
     
  7. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, that's what my position has been diminished too as well.
     
  8. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    So in your definitions, there is either a...

    Boxer.

    Or, a...

    Fighter.

    Have I got that correct?

    No pressure fighter/boxer?
    No counterpuncher?
    No boxer/puncher?
    Etc, etc.

    You're just going from one extreme to another and classing Pacquiao as basically a brawler? :think
     
  9. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have answered it. Other people have answered it . Do some reading insead of spamming the boards with another shitty Pacquiao / Mayweather thread.
     
  10. NotAnMMAfan

    NotAnMMAfan Guest

    I never thought Marquez would be that competitive against PAC the last time. I never thought Peterson has a chance against Khan. Never thought Ortiz would beat Berto but it turned out to be the other way round. PAC can win enough rounds by his sheer aggression and volume punching. If the PAC that fought Oscar and Cotto shows up against Floyd, do you think he has no chance? ****ing idiot! :good:good:good:deal
     
  11. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    You're getting it wrong.

    Yes there are many different types, but you said the word boxer, which when someone is described as a boxer, to me I think pure boxer like Floyd.
     
  12. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess the thread starter picked Buster Douglas to KO Mike Tyson...right?
     
  13. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    :lol:

    You are still dodging the question...
     
  14. kingmurkaveli

    kingmurkaveli Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Styles make fights....Mayweather counters with one straight right and one left hook..Pac will try to come back with 8 blindingly fast punches....The only way Floyd can beat him, is to put his punches together like Marquez, and he has better accuracy, better speed, more power, so if he does, he will do GREAT damage...he will be the first legitamate ww to fight Pac like Marquez fought him, ...he will have to make Pac pay for all the thousands of punches he throws, or else he will get caught by that raw power and get busted up pretty bad...if Floyd fights the right fight, he KO's Pac in the 5th rnd...too big and too fast...but if he thinks he's going to fight him throwing one punch, two punch, its NO WAY his defense can work fast enough to avoid Pac's fast combinations...this is why people think Pac can win, cuz of the styles...Mayweather never fought the way he would have to fight in order to win, so in this fight Mayweather will be doing something we never seen him do before...fight, and put his punches together
     
  15. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    We're talking about a defensive master and master boxer here. :p

    Does this get lost in these discussions?!

    :bbb