Why do you think Pacquiao even stands a chance of beating Mayweather?

Watch both fights again. Marquez didn't use the same gameplan in both fights. He employed no movement against Floyd thinking he could just eat Floyd's punches. Well, he did... 299 times. His poor footwork didn't able him to really even get close to Floyd. Counterpuncher vs. taller, longer, faster counterpuncher. Floyd could have just jabbed all night and would have still won all rounds with his longer reach. Of course JMM couldn't just wait for Floyd to come in because Floyd didn't have to come close to JMM's range. That forced JMM to be the aggressor of which isn't in his comfort zone. Floyd countered him for this. In short, JMM possesses almost no tools to even be competitve with Floyd. Stylewise, he already lost before the first round bell. All his other deficiences compounded in the shutout loss. Even Hatton and Ortiz were able to win rounds in some jugdes cards. JMM got one gift round.

 

what your not getting is it ISN'T HOW JMM WAS FIGHTING-

It was Floyd and the higher level of skill that put JMM on the run and through so much trouble-

Floyd is that much more skillful over Manny-keep believing the excuse in "oh, JMM was fighting differently".

he wasn't fighting differently-HE JUST WENT UP AGAINST A GUY, IN MAYWEATHER, WHO IS MUCH MORE SKILLFUL AND VERSATILE, THAN MANNY.

THUS WE HAVE THE OUTCOMES IN 4 FIGHTS THAT WE DO:deal

 

I'm a Floyd fan, but I think Pac has a chance. Pac isn't going to win by knockout, anyone saying that is just delusional. Pac's path to victory is to do the De La Hoya thing and just be more active for 12 rounds and pray that the judges count punches that land on the shoulder and glove as connected punches.

 

:deal This is how I see it.

:thumbsup

 

1) pac has underrated defense and chin. chance of floyd knocking out pac is slim.

2) pac is a volume puncher. floyd really needs to step up his offense a little bit and do more apart from counter punching, be the aggressor, move a lot and stay off the rope. so floyd needs to turn back time and be the same fighter he once was (compare his corales fight against his last three fights).

3) floyd success over marquez doesn't really mean floyd beats pac as default. they are different counter punchers and both have different fighting stance.

4) pac proved he can compete with someone who has very good boxing fundamentals and counter punching skills. he beat cotto and marquez.

5) pac has power in both hands. he has puncher chance at least.

 

If you don't think it's not sane to think an elite fighter has a chance to beat another elite fighter in his own weight class, you are not completely bright, I suppose. I mean, if I were betting on the fight, I'd take Mayweather by UD. But, why the **** would it be that big of a shock if Pacquiao won by whatever means, I simply don't know.

 

horrible points on 1 and 2-your bias with 3..

as for 4-FLOYD IS IN ANOTHER BALLPARK OVER JMM-

AND 5-EVERYONE HAS A "PUNCHERS CHANCE"..PAC IS NO DIFFERENT:deal

 

Speed-Power- stamina- best offensive fighter in the game. floyd is not unbeatable. There's a reason floyd came up with new testing and lost the urge cuz he knows pac is a real threat to his precious 0:deal

 

I wanted to rile some feathers, and it did just that. Obviously I didn't mean 0% chance, but the way *******s go on you'd think it was a given that Pacquiao was going to kill Mayweather in the ring, but yet they can never back their 'predictions' up with any kind of boxing acumen or tactics. At least with *****s they have more of a reason to be more confident in their fighter in this fight.

They're the lesser of the two evils.

Personally I have affinity to either fighter, I enjoy watching both and appreciate both's differing skill sets, however it is clear in my head and indeed over history that the style match-up here is definitely greatly in favour of someone, and its not Pacquiao.

 

there's a reason why clottey just covered it up for the rest of the fight. he was buckled by a pacquiao punch early on the fight. so why do you think clottey didn't bully pacquiao like he always did against any other fighter?

 

Theres a reason Clottey covered up, because thats his style, what he always does and what his plan was in order to be safe to spend the payday. He didn't come forward because he stood no chance against the speed of Pacquiao.

 

haven't you watched clottey against other opponents. he covered up but he moves forward, uses his size and bully them. why can't he do it to pacquiao? coz he was hurt early on.

 

Did you not just read what I said.

'Clottey didn't come forward because he couldn't handle the speed of Pacquiao'

atsch

 

I think Pacquiao can exploit Mayweather's habits of fighting in straight lines and avoiding the use of lateral movement, disruptive feints and offensives, and in-the-pocket counters that were essential to Marquez's success by controlling/changing the angle faster than Floyd can and having more success with his blistering offense.

It's not just my opinion in here, but many posters who agree and disagree.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358733

 

oh wait, he couldn't handle his speed. what about his workrate and power? if he punches like malignaggi and is a speed demon, do you think clottey would still bother to cover up like he did?

and you said clottey was not hurt, did you remember the shot when clottey buckled? there was also a sequence there where clottey just danced after that as to cover the pain that was inflicted, the same way some boxers smiles if they were hit good.