Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

im a floyd fan and i thought this was a good write up
and damn you for getting me pumped for a floyd vs pac fight again.

also lets not forget that floyd has other skills for him to fall back on beside just counter punching. i hope for a good fight over all

 

I was 60/40 in favor of May beating Pac prior to Pac vs JMM III. Now, I'm more like 80/20 in favor of Floyd.

Pac will be May's greatest challenge to date and in hindsight of May vs Mosley, you absolutely cannot write off Pac's chances given the 2 clean punches Mosley landed on Floyd which had him rocked twice. Pac brings better speed and similar to power to Mosley, yet he also has the stamina to be throwing punches for 12 rounds. Now I will admit that Pac's technical ability hasn't impressed me in his last 2 fights, and for the record, I predict a late round TKO win for May should they ever fight. I think Pac will get desperate and leave himself open to HUGE counters in the later rounds, but that still doesn't mean Pac can't cause Floyd problems.

I get confused with boxing at times. I find it hard to fathom how Pac can look so devestating against someone like Cotto whom I percieve to have some decent boxing ability (as well as being a genuine welterweight), yet fail to even begin to implement his gameplan against JMM who is a natural lightweight, having gone 1-0-1 with him in their previous 2 encounters.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Pac looking a completely different fighter against May than he did against JMM. As mentioned many many times within this thread, its styles.

 

1) emmanuel doesn't eat up single shots. Matter of fact Juan sent him reeling to the ropes a few times with just one right hand or bodyshot. Tijuana halted him a few times with one shot too. Juan used 2 punch combos with success too, something Floyd does do with ease. Let's not pretend Juan is throwing SRR style 10 punch combos.

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That guy had a better chin than emmanuel.

2) Why would Floyd not use the clinch if he can for this fight? Floyd is up there with Ward and Bernard when it comes to fighting in the clinches. emmanuel is close to useless in a clinch. He can halt emmanuel with the clinches instead of lateral moving.

3) See 1 and 2. Don't forget flicking the jab out to check or prevent opponents from gaining ground Juan style.

Floyd isn't a lateral movement happy fighter. He may have to rely on his other tools: fighting off the ropes, clinching, and flicking jabs out to check if he doesn't move laterally much in the fight.

 

Just rewatched Tijuana beating up emmanel in they 1st fight. You think Floyd will be on the ropes a few times like Tijuana was? I don't think Juan was ever on the ropes even once in their 3rd fight, and I don't think it'll be this way for Floyd as he's on his way to KTFO emmanuel.

 

I guess when these to meet it's a matter of who can exploit the other habits first.

 

I dont see any noticeable handspeed advantage or Floyd. They're pretty equal in this department.

How did Pac close the gap in this situation? Mosley has a longer reach than Floyd.

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Pac feinted him, got him to lock up / plant his feet, and came in behind a 1-2. He can do the same thing to Floyd.

And Floyd is not a fighter who prefers to stay out of range anyway. He's habituated to fighting in the POCKET. He routinely lets guys walk inside. Watch the ortiz fight. Ortiz didnt' need a jab to get inside, he was fighting at his range almost the entire fight, and he was bouncing in and out because Floyd doesn't mind letting guys into punching range.

Not alot because Juan was using consistent lateral movement, which Floyd doesn't do and that's entirely the point.

 

This just confirms the OPs point. JMM was never against the ropes due to his movement. Floyd often backs up into the ropes due to his straight line movement.

 

I wasn't in here to deny that Floyd doesn't like to move back in straight lines. You can see from my posts that I said Floyd can afford to fight like this because he understands how to protect himself and fight with his back on the ropes.

It's a no no for most fighters. Floyd has certain skills like fighting off the ropes and clinching that make up for it.

Oscar was somewhat able to exploit Floyd's habits of backing straight up, but he still was only able to win 3 rounds. emmanuel isn't Oscar though. He isn't going to be stepping in while throwing an ATG jab like Oscar was able to.

 

You dont see the handspeed, you'll see it fight night, its okay.

Excuse me but i have to chuckle at that gif. Mosley has no legs, add in that isnt his game. He's not a counter puncher. Comparing FLoyd to Shane is so off base i dont know where to start. Shnae's defense is ****, where talking about floyd, you know, one of the best defensive fighters of all time. Proof is in the pudding.


Did pac land that shot again against shane? no, you know why? Shane took that distance away, with simple ass footwork, and shane has no legs. Pac needs to cut the ring, you cant let floyd just position himself where he wants freely.

Floyd isnt Marg, Cotto, Dlh and clottey.

No floyd doesnt stay out of range, he stays out of punching range of his opponent. He stays close enough to counter but far enough away to not get hit with certain shots.


"He lets guys walk inside" please stop....thats just..



"Bouncing in and out" ......please.


If you think pac can just close the distance with footspeed you are sadly mistaken

 

It was because DLH is way longer, way taller and has one of the best jabs in the history of boxing. Nothing more, nothing less