Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

good points

Castillo and Oscar had at least 10 pounds over Floyd and were able to force him to the ropes. Castillo didn't really jab but could cut off a ring. emmanuel can't really jab or cut off a ring. He has to try to launch himself in with a str8 left.

emmanuel is in no way longer, taller, and bigger than Floyd. emmanuel is one of the few opponents Floyd actually has a real size advantage over.

 

Pac had a hard time getting Shane fight and stop running. Fighting a guy as seasoned as Shane is difficult as it is for most.....but when he's hell bent on AVOIDING risk and looking to survive, it ends up looking like a track meet.

PAC can cut off the ring...that's not an issue...the issue is changing the mind of a fighter from FLIGHT mode to FIGHT mode. Shane was all about Flight that night.

Floyd isn't DLH, Cotto, Marg or Ricky....PAC isn't either of them either. The way PAC dominated Ricky and DLH where Floyd struggled isn't any clear indication that PAC would be Floyd.....and just becuase Floyd dominated JMM and PAC struggled doesn't mean Floyd would dominate PAC the same way he did against Juan.

PAC closes distances with footwork and quick hands. He'll come from angles and off-set his opponents rythm. Aside from JMM...he's been dominant. Floyd had struggles with DLH and Ricky and EVERYONE was saying that PAC would beat Floyd...it's just now the shoes on the other foot but it doesn't make it the gospel.

Styles make fights and Floyd and PAC will have a good competitive scrap.

 

I hate to break it to you but Manny can't cut off the ring. He also doesn't have a great jab. Those two things alone would have got Shane out of there bc he would have been right in front of Shane the whole time. Peterson cutu the ring off well against Khan which is the best and most recent example I can give you. The jab would have relaxed Shane as well.

 

^ Good post and good point about the JMM fight. JMM was consistently in range to hit Floyd and Floyd even had a his back on the ropes at many points, even though JMM is not even an offensive / in-fighter. These guys keep talking about Pacquiao not having the reach to hit Floyd but Floyd doesn't even use his reach to his advantage most of the time. All of his fights against southpaws were fought on the front-foot, including Ortiz. He routinely lets guys into the pocket, because that's where he prefers to fight. Half of his fights are spent either with his back on the ropes or on the inside.

 

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you know Juan throws the best combinations in boxing hands down

 

Pac can cut off the ring kid. He just normally doesn't have to Chase his opponents like he did with Shane. Those who boxed and moved felt the pressures Pac brings and got handled.

Pac doesn't have a great Jab but makes up for it in other areas. Floyd had a test jab and had a Shane who was trying to fight yet Floyd didn't get him out if there. Peterson cut off the ring but Khan actually fought where Shane barely tried to create offense... He was too busy running.

 

No denying shane was running but if pac could cut off the ring that wouldnt have been an issue. Amir was trying to run from Peterson but found himself often trapped on the ropes because Peterson knows how to cut the ring

 

No, unless you can give examples.

 

Tazo on a side note how are you making the gifs? Are you using a software or a website?

 

He's not just "hoppign in." Look again

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He's coming in behind punches. Then he feints Mosley and gets him to lock up, and comes in behind a 1-2. Floyd falls for feints all the time, and has the same habit of locking his feet and dipping his head down. Pacquiao can exploit that.

I aree its not shanes game. It's something that not easy to pull off and it's something Marquez excels at. And it's something Floyd just doesn't do.

He doesnt need one. If floyd wants to fight Pac on the inside, he's welcome to it try it, it's not a good strategy.

Floyd is habituated to bringing you into the pocket beacuse of his defensive style. He'll do it against anyone regardless of your reach or what type of style you have. He's not an outfighter like Ali, who'll keep you at the end of his punches all the time. He spends more time actually blcoking/slipping punches then moving away from them. Look at all of his fights against southpaws, he's always on the front foot /in the pocket and none of them had issues being in punching range. This isn't to say it's easy to hit Floyd but it's not hard to get into punching range against him because he actually welcomes it. It's part of his style.

No one has successfuly coutered pac or come close to beating him fighting in straight lines and throwing one punch at time