If boxing was actually organised who would champion -

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  1. Black2023

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    If boxing was actually organised who would champion - If boxing actually took competition seriously and wanted a sound and simple way...how would boxing look in terms of who is champion and who would be in the top ten.

    Super-Heavy 210 plus

    Heavyweight 210

    Light-Heavy 175

    Middleweight 160

    Welterweight 147

    Lightweight 135

    Featherweight 126
     
    Black2023, Dec 19, 2011
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  2. The Spider

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    If boxing was 'actually organised' it would include bantamweight, flyweight and probably also cruiserweight amongst its divisions :good

    35 pounds between light-heavyweight and heavyweight with nothing in between :patsch
     
    The Spider, Dec 19, 2011
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  3. tofu2009

    tofu2009 Active Member Full Member

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    He obviously means in the original 8 weight divisions;

    Flyweight: (8 st): Pongsalek Wongjongkam
    Bantamweight (8 st 6): Anselmo Moreno
    Featherweight (9 st): Yuri Gamboa
    Lightweight (9 st 9): Juan Manuel Marquez
    Welterweight (10 1/2 stone):Manny Pacquaio
    Middleweight (11 st 6): Sergio Martinez
    Light Heavyweight (12 1/2 stone):Bernard Hopkins
    Heavyweight (unlimited): W.Klitschko
     
    tofu2009, Dec 20, 2011
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  4. The Spider

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    Yes. But he left out traditional divisions in bantamweight and flyweight, and the 35 pound gap between light heavy and heavy isn't really workable either :good
     
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  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Stopped reading at 'Super Heavy'
     
    Flea Man, Dec 20, 2011
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  6. The Spider

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    I know where you are coming from. But people continue to be bigger and heavier every generation. So there is at least some case for a further seperation at the top end.
     
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  7. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Stopped reading at Anselmo Moreno.
     
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  8. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Superheavy" :lol:

    I wonder why it's only in the last few years people from the Anglosphere want a superheavy division.
     
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  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Same.
     
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  10. tofu2009

    tofu2009 Active Member Full Member

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    You could defo make a case for super heavy or just outright banning those over a certain weight.
     
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  11. JukeboxTimebomb

    JukeboxTimebomb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only 4 of the Ring ranked Heavyweights are over 6'4, the one listed at 6'4 is Areola, a fat Light Heavyweight. The two non Klitschko giants are Dimitrenko and Helenius who are hardly worth creating a new division for. Chambers and Ademek are basically Cruisers, not all that good either yet are in the top 5 along with 6'2 kinda chubby past his best already Povetkin.

    The weight he picked doesn't even solve the so called problem because only Chambers has ever come in at less than that in the top 10 yet he beat Dimitrenko easily when he did.
     
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  12. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd say:

    HW - Wlad or this version of old Vit? Even now, I think Vit may well outpoint Wlad, I'll go Vit

    LHW - Bad Chad Dawson or Ward? Ward. I think both would beat Bernard at this point.

    MW - Martinez. Could any of the top SMWs make MW? Doubtful. Ward's gold is at LHW

    WW - Floyd

    LW - JMM































    Super Heavy Weight Butter bean
     
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  13. roe

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    Super Heavy: Sugar Niko (Chagaev, Holyfield and Haye cheated by weighing too little)
    Heavy: Robert Helenius (I have pretty good evidence that he's technically unbeatable)
    Light Heavy: Nathan Cleverly (Britain's only world champion)
    Middle: Sexy Sergio (enough said. Although Martin Murray is brilliant according to Adam Smith)
    Welter: Money May (and proved it by beating Ortiz)
    Light: Juan Manuel Marquez (Ricky Burns is interim because JMM won't go near him)
    Feather: Chris John (also technically unbeatable)
     
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  14. Bryn

    Bryn Boxing Junkie banned

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    Fixed.
     
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  15. Black2023

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    Thanks that why i put super-heavy-


    The last great heavies have been-

    R. Bowe 6'5 245pounds

    L. Lewis 6'5 244 pounds

    W. Klitschko 6'6 244 pounds

    V. Klitscho 6'7 1/2 250 pounds


    Also feel middleweight should be literally in the middle....which was why it was created in the first place.
     
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