Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

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  1. Symphenyceo

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    excellent analysis without the usual "ducker" "*****" bull****. very interesting, but i still think you don't lose to torrecampo, singsurat, morales, and have 3 mighty struggles with juan manuel marquez and beat floyd mayweather, no matter how "styles make fights". floyd is too big, too fast, too good for manny, plain and simple. he might actually stop pacquiao.
     
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    and we know emmanuel will be coming towards Floyd

    he clearly states in his book that prides himself on making "exciting" fights

    emmanuel simply lacks patience, and this lack of it will even be greater than usual the night he fights Floyd
     
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    You should send this to Floyd and his cocky uncle. I have a feeling that he's going to use the same game plan against Manny that he has used against every southpaws that he has fought. As far as saying that Floyd won't be able to land the right hand on Manny at a consistent basis because he won't be able to change the angle due to his lack of constant pivot mobility, I may have to disagree on that. Floyd's biggest advantage in every fights is his ability land more accurately than his opponents. As good as Marquez is with his footwork movement, he's not a more accurate puncher than Floyd. I also think that you're exaggerating about Floyd not being able to clinch or fight on the inside consistently.
     
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    When Amir was on his bike Peterson couldnt cut the ring off. I think a lot of people are basing their opinion that Pac can't cut the ring off because of the Shane fight which is not effective boxing in any circumstance... Amir would run at times but he was mostly fighting which allowed Peterson more opportunity to fight his fight on the inside...Shane ran 90% of the time with Pac which didn't allow for any lengthy exchanges.
     
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    Cotto, EM 2 and 3 and MAB 1 & 2. There are more examples where Pac had to cut the ring off in fights where his opponents were retreating but these are the more notable fights you can review. I will say in the Cotto fight Pac did at some point get frustrated in the later rounds when Cotto was pretty much running to survive, but when Cotto would box and use defensive foot work Pac easily cut off the ring on Miguel and lit him up with counters and combinations.
     
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    This sloppy, unskilled, amateur bum rush attack would not work on Floyd. It barely worked on Shane. His coming forward throwing both hands while being open as **** himself for a counter.
     
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    :rofl This is just going full on ******. Pac could not cut off the ring against Barrera 2 and Barrera did not run. He just did not brawl like he tried to in the first fight. Which is the main reason Pac could not stop or barely even land big hurtful shots in the 2 fight. Watch the ****ing fights before you speak idiot. :lol:
     
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    Not true.
     
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    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto and Barrera arent mobile fighters. Thats actually pretty funny. Eric was shot to hell in The 2nd and 3rd fights. Gives me some examples where the target was actually mobile.
     
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    How cute.:rofl some simple **** has the nerve to call someone else a ******. Forgive me if I laugh at your expense corky.

    Pac boxed the **** out of Marco in the rematch... He out boxed the more technically sound fighter where JMM barely etched out a decision on the same MAB.

    Pac was just in the midst of evolving under Roach and was working on being more technical and using strategy vs going out with reckless abandon trying to land the straight left all night. Toopretty? More like "too****instupid"..:yep