Would you say Floyd Mayweather Junior is the CURRENT linear welterweight champion?

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  1. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd's retirement basically screwed things up.
    I would say there is arguably no lineal WW champ since Pac and Floyd, both numbers 1 and 2 for quite some time, haven't fought each other yet.

    It could've easily been FMJ had he not retired after he fought Mosley.
     
    this_and_that, Dec 20, 2011
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  2. horst

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    Fair enough.
     
    horst, Dec 20, 2011
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  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    see this was a debate man! good stuff:good n good points.
     
    sdsfinest22, Dec 20, 2011
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  4. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    There's a good reason why I wanted this in the classic section...
     
    MrOliverKlozoff, Dec 20, 2011
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  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The question there is "valid," my man. The referee himself released a statement to the press stating that Ertle's DQ victory over Williams was a no-decision bout and that the title should not change hands.

    Thus, mine goes from Williams > Herman > Lynch > Herman > Buff > Lynch > Goldstein > Martin > *********.
     
    Stonehands89, Dec 21, 2011
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  6. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    And i have removed you from my ignore list :lol::lol::lol:

    Mayweather won it off Baldomir. He retired and vacated it. Margarito beat Cotto and Mosley beat Margarito. Then Mayweather beat Mosley and retired again.
     
    pahapoisu, Dec 21, 2011
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  7. PH|LLA

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    Vacant.
     
    PH|LLA, Dec 21, 2011
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  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :deal

    All there is to it. Any body votes no is exposing how they DKSAB.
     
    pipe wrenched, Dec 21, 2011
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  9. RightHandLead17

    RightHandLead17 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree that it's vacant, but the closest to it is FMJ. FMJ was lineal WW champ by beating Baldomir. He then obtained the 154lb crown by beating Oscar. He vacated it to keep his 147lb crown, beat Hatton then retired. Manny beat Cotto @ a catch-weight for a paper title that he picked up off some bum, and the belt that FMJ vacated was the WBC that Andre Berto had. Manny didn't beat Mosley better: not to mention he waited until he lost to FMJ and arguably lost to Sergio Mora. Manny also didn't fight or beat Margarito @ 147 it was a catch-weight for an 154lb title.
     
    RightHandLead17, Dec 21, 2011
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  10. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You dont vacate a linear title for being inactive for a year and a half. Dempsey didn't fight for 3 years and he was still heavyweight champion.
     
    nastynas, Dec 21, 2011
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  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    Did he retire? You are aware Floyd did say he was retiring at the time. That changed everything whether you like it or not.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Dec 21, 2011
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  12. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    This.

    There's no way that May/Ortiz was for the lineal title. Ortiz' only fight at WW prior was beating Berto, who really hadn't done much before then (Quintana is arguably the only "top" name he faced).

    IMO the lineal title is vacant right now, and can only be re-established by the winner of Pac/May. No less.
     
    Kid Cuba, Dec 21, 2011
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  13. Harvin87

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    Congratulations Sir, this is the stupidest post I've ever seen in my life- :nonono
     
    Harvin87, Dec 21, 2011
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yes the referee did and I don't for one second believe that he became the best bw in the world, however the result was never overturned nor proved to be corrupt and thus by lineage the title changed hands that night.

    I'll respond by pm incase this gets lost in the murky depths of the general :-(
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 22, 2011
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  15. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    This Mayweather - Pacquiao story is getting ridicously boring. Aren't you tired debating the same stuff every day of the week?
     
    makavel, Dec 22, 2011
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