Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    He looked uncomfortable and was not dominant during the first three of Hatton, and dropped 4 or 5 of the first 6 against Judah and De La Hoya, backing up in straight lines often. And for the record, I had Mosley winning the first round.
     
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  2. Slickstar

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    He was landing rights and hooks easily on Hatton starting in the 1st round.

    No way did Zab and Oscar win that much.

    Zab won the first 2 rounds for sure. 3 was a very obvious Mayweather round where he broke Zab down to the body. 4 could have gone either way. HBO had it 8-4 for Mayweather with Zab winning rounds 1, 2, 4, and 12 on their cards. The judges had it like this: judge: Glen Hamada 119-109 | judge: Dave Moretti 116-112 | judge: Jerry Roth 117-111

    I don't know how you had Oscar winning 4 or 5 rounds in the first half of their fight. He would have won the fight if he really sweeped that much from the start. When was the last time you watched this fight?

    Ortiz recently didn't win any rounds off Floyd. Victor is at his best early on in the fight too where he causes knockdowns.
     
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  3. Bogotazo

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    Floyd nearly fell off balance trying to maneuver laterally around Hatton and took a few rounds to adjust to his foot-speed and make the strategically beneficial decision to lay on the ropes and counter his aggression with inside fighting.

    Judah won a good four rounds in that fight to me, and 5 is not a big stretch.

    Oscar won four or maybe five rounds total, and most of them were early or mid-fight; Floyd won a vast majority of the second half of the fight.

    Ortiz didn't win a round on my card, but right before the headbutt, Floyd walked right into a right hook and proceeded to get tagged by a straight left before shuffling straight backwards in a line into the ropes in a full defensive mode without ever really looking able to reclaim the center of the ring.

    I'm not claiming he lost any of those fights or performed poorly, I'm simply showing how his stylistic liabilities are sometimes even more pronounced in the first half of a fight.
     
    Bogotazo, Dec 21, 2011
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  4. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :huh

    Judah won 3 rounds in total in that bout, and Oscar won 4 rounds in total in that bout.

    How Floyd could have dropped 4 or 5 rounds to both IN THE FIRST 6 ROUNDS of each fight, is just incomprehensible.

    On a side note, I also scored round 1 for Mosley live, and obviously round 2. Not so sure on round 1 after further viewing, but I decided to stick with my initial instinct. 118-110 for me.
     
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  5. Slickstar

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    Same here. We'll all have very different scorecards if Floyd beats manny by decision instead of stoppage. bogz is generous to Floyd's opponents.
     
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  6. Slickstar

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    Do you mind if I ask you how you scored the JMM-manny 3rd fight?
     
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  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    116-113 for Marquez. I watched it a few times and it sometimes changes by a point, but that's the most consistent score I've gotten.
     
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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    *******s have already been SCHOOLED AND OWNED IN THIS THREAD-

    THESE ****** *******S AREN'T EVEN REAL BOXING FANS..

    All these ****** ***** fukin *******s do is troll-they know 0 about the sport and are getting owned in this thread-

    *******s are pathetic man-ruin this site-they don't realize that jail don't change anything about what jmm did to Pac-which was BTW a PREVIEW OF WHAT FLOYD GONNA DO-

    Floyds length and better footwork control the fight-Floyd will land his straight right at will and he'll be able to make Pacquiao look amatuer when Pac throws his wild combinations and "runs in"...

    Floyd knocks him in 7 or 8 rounds..easy fight for Floyd's style-
     
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  9. PBF24

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    :nut:nut:lol::lol:
     
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  10. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :patsch
     
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  11. JMP

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    Pure class, huh? :lol:
     
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  12. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Marquez is such a technician, he got outboxed by Manny Pacquiao.

    That is saying a lot.

    Klingoned, eating right hands like Captain Crunch.

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    Mayweather went to jail, so he wouldn't get Klingoned.

    :lol:
     
    Bee KeepZ, Dec 22, 2011
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  13. KarlBrandt

    KarlBrandt Active Member Full Member

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    What the **** is wrong with you,are you a Mayweather fan ?

    You have a problem with his post but you dont have any problem with the *******s who are trolling on this forum 7/7 ?
     
    KarlBrandt, Dec 22, 2011
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  14. Smokin' Joe

    Smokin' Joe ~ Dinamita Irlandés ~ banned

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    Can you ****s keep your **** out of threads like this?

    This is a technical breakdown thread, and a very good one too. Discuss the topic or get lost.
     
    Smokin' Joe, Dec 22, 2011
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  15. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    I enjoyed watching a master technician like Marquez get outboxed by Manny Pacquiao.

    Those right hand counters were a thing of beaut, good thing the judges were able to appreciate beautiful display of masterpiece Pacquiao put on that night.

    He was like Picasso and his canvass was Marquez's face.

    *MUAH*

    MASTERPIECE
     
    Bee KeepZ, Dec 22, 2011
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