Has wlad done enough such that he's began a new universally accepted lineage?

Erdei himself vacated his WBO title, not the lineal crown, as far as I know.

 

Ok, here's the deal on this.....

The Ring didn't have actual titles in 1996, the magazine was just a ranking system at this time.

They just recognized Hill as #1 for beating Maske.

They didn't bring back the Chaimpion system and start issuing their own belts until 2002...by this time they had already put Jones as the #1 for beating Hill, Griffin, Harding and the like.

I do think they should have made him and Michalczewski fight. But I don't think that system wasn't even in place yet, think they just issed the belts to number ones in select weight classes.

 

In all fairness, Michalczewski did kind of become a non-factor in the division despite his linage while Jones cleaned out the top 3-5 guys.

It kind of reminds of what they just did with Bute. He was the #1 just last year but they pushed him aside as Ward and Froch progressed to the final rounds of the Super 6.

 

Spoken with all the dismissive arrogance of someone who's utterly lost the plot. Produce a source so we can finally move on.

The problem here is, you fail to consider that the WBO and lineal titles are two, separate things. You have your whole focus fixed on Erdei's vacation of one claim, yet in doing so, you turn your back on history. This isn't exactly unique in boxing. It wasn't 5 years ago, when Hatton gave up his own alphabet title to move up, but he retained recognition as the true light welterweight champion. The moment he moved back down, Pacquiao was waiting to take it from him. I assume you have Pacquiao as the former light welterweight king now, don't you?

I challenge you to cite where Erdei actually said he vacated with no reference to the WBO, for starters. If you can't find the statement, you can't punch holes into my argument. Hatton, and many others, was given the benefit of the doubt, why not Erdei?

 

Likewise, there is a difference between vacating the WBO championship and the lineal championship.

Both happened to Hatton, actually. He was first stripped by the IBF for refusing to face their mandatory challenger (he fought Collazo next for a belt at welterweight, I believe). He then regained it by defeating Urango, but later vacated to battle Mayweather. Pacquaio won the lineal title from him in his very next fight.

I wish the same to you and yours. Enjoy the holidays.

 

Now you're shifting the goal posts - again.

The burden of proof is on *you* to produce evidence to suggest that Erdie explicitly vacated his claim to the linear 175lb claim.

All this talk about WBO belts and what not is one big Red Herring.

 

Really?

When did Erdei say *anything* about vacating his claim to the lineal 175lb title?

 

What does Yahoo's divisional rankings say?

I would look myself but they only exist in your mind.

 

Have you cooked up your daily crack dosage yet?