Heavyweight limit at 230lb, then Eagleweight 230+

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lead Right, Dec 23, 2011.


  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It's unfair because the smaller guy has to fight an uphill battle, even if he has more talent than the bigger guy. I'm sure in a real fight you would rather fight let's say Chisora instead of Helenius, Vitali, Fury etc. Besides bigger guys have more power which you forgot to mention as well, longer reach (makes it harder for the smaller opponents to hit or get near them despite the big guy not having good defense at all) and better punch resistance.
     
  2. makkipalwan

    makkipalwan Member Full Member

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    eagleweight? not veryfair on eagles
    how about Walrusweight or Hippoweight champion of the World!:D
     
  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Making weight weakens the organs a lot (including the brain) and makes them more prone to a bleed. They have improved weight making regulations a lot due to all of the brain damage that was happening. The boxing authorities don't want people over 200lbs making weight though because heavies do enough damage already even though some have an unfair advantage.
     
  4. Note a 5'10" 215 pound Mike Tyson KOing 6'6" 250 pound Sammy Scaff in round one.
     
  5. Bigger guys dont always have more power. David Haye and Arreola hit harder than Helenius and Dimitrenko.
     
  6. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yes, there are exceptions. Doesn't make the statement untrue though.
     
  7. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    :deal
     
  8. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with this. Thats why they SHOULD increase the CW limit and the LHW limits so average sized fighters between 175-215 can compete in any of 3 weight classes, Cruiser being the best fit for your average athlete who is 6'2" 210lbs.
     
  9. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont mind you quoting me but in this case at least capture the full context that i think its a dumb idea to begin with and im against splitting/adding divisions.
    But IF you had to do it i would do it like that.
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Niether Haye NOR Arreola hit harder than Helenius. But yeah, Dimitrenko aint exactly a banger.

    Which tough chinned HWs has Arreola KOd NONE, and Haye KOd an old shot retiring Ruiz due to accumulative rabbit punches.
     
  11. DrMo

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    Post #25

    great minds think alike.
     
  12. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough man :good
    I still say leave it alone though!
     
  13. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Valuev really has some devastating power, alright :yep

    As I've said, there's a point where size starts being a disadvantge rather than an advantage, and that's a fact. If you can't grasp that, there really is no point in discussing with you. I'm still waiting for you to tell me if Ali had an unfair advantage in a lot of his fights, did he?
     
  14. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad at 5'10 would still have great technical skill but let's face it, losing his most important advantage, his height and arm length, (which helps him dictate his fights), would be a big blow for him.

    Not trying to knock the guy. How he's shaped his tactics to make use of the physical advantages he has is amazing. Not many real tall guys who are as athletic and skilled as he is.

    As far as more power for bigger guys, true in some cases but bigger guys are also slower, which in boxing is huge disadvantage against speedy guys. Wlad's got some nice speed for his size. I remember seeing him on the mitts before his Haye fight and wondering what Haye was thinking about his speed, if he really believed he had such a huge advantage over Wlad in that deparment.
     
  15. pirao666

    pirao666 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad at his current size is every bit as fast as Haye, as demonstrated in their fight. At 5'10'' he would have blinding speed.

    You can't just take away the advantages that come with weight but keep the disadvantages. It's just nonsense anyway, boxing should be openweight, like most sports are. I don't hear basketball or football players bitching that their opponents are taller or stronger and it being "unfair".