Heavyweight limit at 230lb, then Eagleweight 230+

**** this superheavyweight bollocks. All these heavyweights who would be challenging the Klitchskos would be overweight guys who could make less than 230 pounds.

Am I to believe prime Ali, Tyson, Holyfield wouldn't give Bowe, Klitchskos and Lewis hell! Hell no!

The most talented, skilled yet gutless competitor to the Klitchsko's is 6'3, 215 pound Haye. If Haye got his cruiserweight mentality back then Vitali or Wlad COULD find themself in la la land.

 

Anything over 230 should be super heavyweight.

Why should a 6ft8 300lb Brock Lesnar clone be in the ring with a 210lb guy? That is a 90lb weight difference.

 

That depends. Lewis has a weak enough chin that fights could be interesting. He was as good or maybe slightly better than Wlad. Vitali on the other hand can take as well as give and I don't see any of those guys beating him.

 

Why not let Floyd fight David Haye? Why have weight classes at the lower weights and not the higher weights?

 

I said before there are rare exceptions to the rule.

It's not that I don't grasp that, I disagree with that. Look at Helenius, Dimitrenko and Fury. Three talentless massive heavies, if it wasn't for their huge size they would not be where they are now. Agree or disagree?

And yes Ali did have some advantage but I don't think the difference was as big as they are/can be today.

 

Tell me a single giant HW that has devastating power (I mean guys near Valuev size), there aren't any.

Helenius, Dimitrenko and Fury are where they're at (which isn't saying a lot because except Helenius neither of the other 2 are in most people's top 10, and even Helenius stock has fallen quite a lot since his "win" against Chisora) because of careful matchmaking and corrupt judges/refs.

 

Helenius, Fury, Vitali etc. Massive punchers. Btw, you did not reply to the comment I made about punch resistance and reach advantage.

To me, by their talent they shouldn't even be as far as they are now, all plodding, slow, no technical skill at all. I strongly believe if it wasn't for their size they would not be where they are now for sure.

 

They're not Valuev size or anywhere close, they're Klitschko size. And Fury (lol) and Helenius are not massive punchers. Big guys being devastating punchers, like the Klitschkos, are the exception, not the other way round. I already said that yes, durability is an advantage, in fact I said it in my 1st post in this thread I believe. Reach doesn't mean **** if you don't have the technique to exploit it, which neither Fury, nor Helenius nor Valuev have.

If they had faced anyone with a pulse they would have already been exposed, they just have inflated rankings and padded records, that's all.

 

Blubberweight sounds about right to me...

 

Does a feather weight more than a bantam?

 

Arreola doesn't hit hard. Helenius is a massive hitter, that's all he has to his game. Where have you been? Don't be fooled by his last performance when he broke his hand in the first round.

 

You are a *****. The heavyweights are the heavyweights, don't think too hard.

 

Of course the heavyweight needs to be broken up into 2 or more divisions, every fan knows this. Most of the people bitching are just trollin--they're not serious.

The whole point of "divisions" is to promote interesting, even fights. That is, fights between dudes of the same size. If you have a fight where one boxer has a gross size/weight advantage over the other, that tends to lead to a tactical battle rather than a war.