Pac Won The Fight Against Marquez

Wrong, best gift is Floyd going to jail.....................j/k

Merry Xmas too and have a Happy New Year.

 

to say that pac-marquez a robbery is insane. to say that it's robbery of the year is madness. i guess you think chuck giampa who scored it for marquez is a better judge than moretti just because of this fight?

 

I can see that point.

But what jumpes out at me is that you gave three out of the first four rounds to JMM. I scored those rounds in slow mo (yeah, I am to dumb to get it right in real time over a computer screen) and you could make a case that JMM should have one of them. Pac outboxed him, outmoved him and outlanded him. JMM landed poorly. Reaching body shots with little power behind them, some tentative jabs. He forced Pac back with some combos, but Pac seemed to block them well.

Hence, as far as I can tell you are wrong, and the "grazing punches"-argument is not valid.

 

pac won fair n square

 

If you actaully believe this i can't argue with you, its like you were on LSD while watching it.
Its pretty much the same as me showing you a picture of a bike and you keep saying its a car because it has wheels.
It makes no sense.

If less than 5% agree with you maybe its time you need to rewatch and rethink or just start watching WWE and keep living in a fantasy world.

 

When I first saw it I was drinking and was hyped by Marquez being able to CP so effectively. That biased me every round so I only had Pac up by one point at the end of the fight.

Watching it sober, being objective, Pac won by more like 3 full rounds.

Close rounds shouldn't be 10/10 rounds, they should be scored 10/9 for the CHAMP!

 

there was a thread started asking if this is a close fight and more than 70% agreed that it was. you are painting a picture where it was a dominating win for marquez when it was really not.

again there are too many close rounds in this fight that it could have gone either way. you are the hard headed one thinking of there's only one way to score a close fight. did it occur to you why it has split decisions? coz they have preferred one's style and his approach to fight over the other in a close fight.

 

and if you deny that most of marquez' punches were blocked, then you are seeing a different fight. watch it again and this time, get a clear copy.

 

Interesting way of scoring, you have there.

Close rounds should be scored to the fighter who was slightly better than the other, based on effective aggression, clean punching, ring generalship and defence.

Pac was not effective in his aggression, Marquez certainly landed the cleaner punches, was the ring general and was better defensively (and please don't be one of the posters to put up post fight pics or compubox scores to suggest otherwise).

And who says that a counter puncher can't use effective aggression. Picking your spots when to throw and score clean punches is effective aggression.

Just because the word "aggression" is used doesn't mean that aspect of scoring has to go to the person who is coming forward or throwing more punches. The emphasis is on the word "effective".

 

Did it occur to you why only 5% of people thought Pac won? stop believing your own lies its like you convinced yourself of something so ******ed it just makes you look dumb.
There is a reason this was called robbery of the year.

It has nothing to do with style it has to do with how to objectively and properly score a boxing match.

I do not have a style preference, as i have favorite fighters in vastly different styles.

Over 80% of people thought Marquez won this and won it clearly, now get your head out of your ass.
You obviously score come forward/high volume fighters no matter if they hit or not.

Pac won because it was a "business decision" for Arum, its as simple as that.
The Mayweather fight had to be salvaged.

Now watch it again and this time be sober or just move on to WWE or Pinoy only fighting.

 

It would be rare for a fighter to land 50% or more of their punches in a fight that goes 12 rounds.

So yes, more of his shots were blocked or missed than landed.

 

80% of people thought marquez won and won it clearly? you are the one talking out of your ass. i can agree that many thinks jmm won but clearly? most have this a close fight. if you don't think so, then make a poll.

and you are acting like pacquiao had never hit marquez. there's a reason why marquez' face was red already for the first few rounds of the fight and that was not just grazing shots.

i understand that you are too emotionally invested in this fight that all reasoning is gone. to you and some, it was a robbery no matter how close those rounds are.

 

Ah the marked face arguement, i love it when people that have lost a arguement completely start hugging on that theory.
A single grazing punch can cause cuts/swelling/marks worse than any clean punch would.

Once you used that line i know now that you know you are wrong.
Well that and the emotional investment part seeing as i predicted Pac would win but you are the obsessive Pac fan.
Fair play though you stuck with your arguement for a while.

It was getting rather old rehashing the same arguements and facts over and over.
Anyway nice try man, come again when you have a more valid arguement.
I still maintain you should try watching the fight sober and in a objective manner, you might learn something about boxing.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

There's no way Pac won 8 rounds in that fight (which he would need to win by 4 points)

No way at all.