Who has done the most at SMW. Froch or Bute?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who has done the most at SMW. Froch or Bute?

    Just a look over both.

    The most accomplished SMW Froch has beaten is arguably Magee.
    The most accomplished SMWs Bute has beaten varies between Berrio, Andrade and Magee.

    Froch has only won vacant titles.
    Bute beat a world champ, but not a highly regarded one having his first defence.

    Froch is 5-2-0 in world title fights
    Bute is 10-0-0 in world title fights

    So who do you think has done the most at SMW between the 2?

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    For me I think Froch deserves the most credit between them as he has been willing to travel and has fought away 5 times in his last 6 fights. Also Bute was lucky to escape without a loss in his first fight with Andrade.

    But

    Bute has beaten Andrade when he was a top 3 SMW, beaten Bika, Berrio, etc

    Pascal, Dirrell, Abraham, Taylor and Johnson never did much at SMW but then neither did Miranda and Mendy so it becomes a tight one.

    So who has done more at SMW?
     
    bailey, Dec 26, 2011
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Froch, bute hasnt fought many good boxers.
     
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  3. Imperial1

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    Froch and its not even close and he most of his best wins came on the road ..
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im being harsh here but
    Pascal did nothing at SMW
    Taylor was 1-2 in his last 3 fights and has done nothing at SMW
    Dirrell has done nothing at SMW, his best win is Oganov
    Kessler beat Froch
    Abraham was coming off a loss and has done nothing at SMW
    Johnson has done nothing at SMW

    Magee is the most prime accomplished SMW Froch has beaten and Bute has beaten him also. R Reid was just a shell when Froch beat him.
    Bute has also beaten Bika and Andrade when Andrade was a top 3 SMW. Froch has beaten anyone rated that high. Bute has also beaten Johnson and Berrio. Both Andrade and Berrio hold wins over Steiglitz the current WBO SMW champ
     
    bailey, Dec 26, 2011
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  5. Holmesy

    Holmesy Interloper Full Member

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    Clearly Froch, but when Bute beats him, which he will, it won't matter.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    why do you say clearly?
    I admit Froch has been on the road, but opponents is what counts and Froch hasnt beaten anyone as highly rated at SMW as what Bute has in #3 Andrade
     
    bailey, Dec 26, 2011
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  7. Holmesy

    Holmesy Interloper Full Member

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    You can rip holes in Froch's resume without difficulty, but I feel that Taylor, Pascal and Dirrell are better wins (on paper) than Bute has had, although I feel Dirrell beat Froch in reality and Taylor was nearly there. Also, the Reid win doesn't exactly hurt the argument.

    Edit: Forgot about Abraham, although I hear your soon-to-be argument that Abraham hasn't achieved anything at SMW.
     
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  8. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Bute only beat the 20 count against Andrade ..Talk about corruption had that been officiated correctly Bute would have had the 1 loss .
     
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  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with you. I think Bute beat the count but anywhere else that fight would have been stopped.
    Still Bute on paper has the win and did clearly win a return. Many felt Froch lost to Dirrell and some even think to Johnson.
    If you are looking at it all that way, you could say Froch has only sparkled in one world title fight. Bute has in a few
     
    bailey, Dec 26, 2011
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  10. Sidious

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    Bute,no doubt,and i've been saying that even before Froch lost to Ward.There are a lot of ******s who think Super6 was a legitim tournament with the best 6 fighters though,so that's why they fail to see that Bute has a better resume than most of the "super6" fighters except Kessler and now Ward.And they both have no shame in ducking Bute,maybe they know something their fanboys don't....
     
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  11. Arcane

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    Froch for me, Bute's best win was over a bad shoulder suffering 42 year old Johnson.
     
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  12. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this
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  13. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    froch is the 2nd best sm period. bute is like 6 or the 7 th best.
     
    platnumpapi, Dec 26, 2011
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  14. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone picking Bute just comes across as a mis-guided fan boy IMO.

    His best win is Johnson.

    After that you have to wade through Andrade, who you could say beat him once.

    Long time solid contender, Sakio Bika.

    Mendy is nothing special, doubt he'll ever be a belt holder.

    Jessie Brinkley, are you serious?!

    Magee is past it, and he wasn't world class to begin with. Froch beat a better version.

    I nearly forgot ATG gatekeeper, Edison Miranda.
     
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  15. Sidious

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    and what's best win for Froch?Dirrell,Taylor or Abraham?all 3 are bad jokes compared to Andrade or Bika.Andrade and Bika would beat Froch,Bute will retire him.
     
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