Are Bute and Kessler bound to meet before 2010 in the ring?

From what I remember Lucian was under contract with HBO to fight his madatory with Andrade for October.

By accepting the Kessler offer then and there he would have been violating the terms of his contract......so Interbox tentatively agreed to 09, but we all know that later in 08 the s6 began and Bute was blackballed being in an HBO contract.:think

Now, fast forward to Kesslers exit from s6.....Bute to Kessler.....let's get it on.....more $$$$ than either of us has ever made and we can steal some thunder from Ward/Froch and potentially force a showdown with the winner.
Kessler with no counteroffer to the potential 3.5 mil payday on a 30/70 split goes for Steiglitz, a 40/60 split but significantly less $$$$$.:rofl

 

Sorry, but it had nothing to do with HBO.

Interbox also ddnt use anything else as an excuse. They said straight up "Bute is not ready". No way to spin that mate. Kessler offered Bute the fight several times, and Bute wasn't interested until after Kessler looked like he was declining.

Nothing new in that, Many promoters do that.

 

Bute did say right after he got his belt he had to improve before facing Kessler. Then, Palle and Interbox had talks for a fight for early 2009 but Kessler was then in a dispute with Palle. That's a fact. A Kessler-Bute fight would have been made almost 3 years ago if Kessler would have been available.

 

Was wondering when the revisionists would turn up.

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Bute ducked him with the "im not ready excuse"
All the other Bute fans can see it apart from you.

 

Too bad, JN43 is so stupid he is on my ignore list. I won't be able to read another stupid post. What am I going to do?

:|

 

The truth hurts mate, only pussies put people on thier ignore list.
I know youve logged out to read this as well thats the kind of ***** you are.

 

I guess you're too dumb to understand what is an ignore list is.

You should consult a doctor. You are speaking to yourself.

 

Totally untrue. As any sportsman, Bute had margins to improve his level even if being a major belt holder. This is a sign of humility, a very important state of mind for anyone who tries to become a better professional. As he admitted, he become a better fighter over the years and nowdays he's significantly more dangerous for his potential opponents than 3 years ago.

Of course one can do that. If a responsible fighter receives a phone call at midnight with the proposal to face a very tough opponent the next day at noon, you will agree that he should refute because he's not prepared: he has to do some training first, he has to put himself in a good physical condition, he has to study the opponent, he has to elaborate some potential winning tactics with a decent probability of success. Bute was at the time in a somehow similar situation, aware of his limitations while fully committed to improve his technical and physical abilities up to his maximal level. At that moment, a Bute-Kessler match would have been uneven from the very beginning, would have given no interesting information about the level Bute is able to reach and would have been almost certainly very bad for Bute's professional future. So his team took the right decision.

Restating the same assertion doesn't make it more true. Define "ducking" in clear terms and I'll tell you if the lack of interest in an early Bute-Kessler match can be labeled as such.

I am just stating the facts, I have no interest in labeling fighters.
Before 2008, Bute did not accept to fight Kessler. He could have given some BS motivation: the offer conditions were not interesting, the purse was too low, Kessler's promoter made the negotiations fail. Instead of this, Interbox stated their reasons, pointing out that Kessler was OK and it was only a matter of reaching a steady level before Bute was able to fight him.
In early 2011, Kessler did not accept to fight Bute. He could have given some decent motivation: he felt not fully recovered from his health problems, he decided it was better for him at this point of the career to fight an arguably weaker opponent for a belt (Stieglitz), he wanted to fight only in Denmark and he's not convinced by the offer. Instead of this, he pointed the finger to Interbox, accusing them of alleged lowballing him and blaming Bute's team for the negotiations' failure, while not proposing any counter-offer and signing an agreement with Stieglitz in a matter of days after.
These are facts; if you want to label involved people, try to stick to them.

 

How come Bute has the most ALT-fans........................???

 

You don't get it. It's never Bute's fault. Ever.

It's always the other guy.

 

Putting people on the ignore list because they are rude enough to dig up facts.

That sound quite childish doesn't it?

 

2008, Interbox: 'Bute is not ready yet, Kessler is levels ahead of him technically'

2011, Sauerland: 'Interbox's offer was like 1 Danish Krone'

Not very hard to decipher which is an honest, humbling statement, and which is a no-substance accusation.


JN43 is so bitter about Froch's loss to Ward, he's got to take it all on Bute digging old **** up. True story.

 

If it was the case, you would be on my ignore list. You are not.

The ignore list is for people spoiling threads.

You're talking about facts: why don't you talk about those I brought?
Are you aware of the negociations between Palle and Interbox many years ago?

 

Ok. This is fact: For several years team Kessler tried to make a fight with team bute, but team bute said "bute is not ready for Kessler".

This is fact - and IMO. nothing wrong with this.

Team bute this year tried to make a fight with team Kessler. Since Kessler was still rusty and injury prone, team Kessler didn't find the risk-award ratio to be good enough.

There is IMO also nothing wrong with this. In an interview recently Kessler was asked if his eyesight was now perfect...his answer "it is going better". So apparently one eye is still not that good.

,...............

So I can accept team bute and team Kessler declining fights.

The problem comes when some fans deny facts to spin reality like they would like it to be.

 

You are saying Kessler tried to have a fight with Bute for several years. It is not only false, it is ridiculous. You just have to look at Kessler's history to know it. Timing is essential to make a fight and no fighteris available for several years.

You are the one spinning the facts. Kessler lost to Calzaghe, had a hand surgery, was in a dispute with his promoter for a year, went for the WBO title (having a mandatory to make), those are all facts. Kessler was available maybe three times to face Bute. Maybe.