Who has done the most at SMW. Froch or Bute?

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  1. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Froch has fought the better fighters, but I think he came out of it looking worse that Bute has.

    Although Bute struggled against Andrade, and I dont rate Andrade at all as anything other than a punching bag.

    Wouldn't mind seeing them fight.
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those guys are better fighters than Magee though. They earned that rep even if it wasn't as at SMW.
     
  3. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brilliant rundown.

    Let's face it. By Baileys logic Larry Holmes suffered a devastating and humbling defeat at the hands of Michael Spinks who had done exactly nothing at HW.

    Same goes for Hagler when he lost to Leonard.

    And so on..... Lots of terrible losses if one goes by Bailey's logic of exclusively looking at what so and so did at that particular weight.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understand what you trying to say, but look at this at SMW
    Calzaghe beat Veit who beat Braehmer who won a LHW title
    Calzaghe beat Sheika who beat Johnson who won a LHW title
    Calzaghe beat Starie who beat Woods who won a LHW title
    Calzaghe beat Mitchell who drew with Girard who won a LHW title

    Some fighters cant seem to cut it at a certain weight
     
  6. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not many boxers are "accomplished" at SMW as its been a lackluster division devoid of talent not many stayed around there for good reason

    therefore pin pointing that weight class is NOT a good thing !!!


    look at the two long time champs in Joe and Ottke = wasted careers

    Froch has beaten better fighters than bute has- thats all that matters

    so the answer is froch
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Froch has done more but Bute is more dangerous H2H.
     
  8. bballchump11

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    :good
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Froch easily.
     
  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    so how would you account for the fact that glen johnson was competitive with the worlds best at 160 and 175 but has repeatedly had the **** kicked out of him at 168?

    how would you account for pascal doing nothing at 168 but being world class at 175?

    how would you account for jermain taylor being a world class operator at 160 but being a punch bag at 168?
     
  11. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch, but Bute is the better boxer. Dont rate Froch at all.
     
  12. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    its hard to assess who has done most at 168 between froch and bute.

    the american public only wish to hype a eurobum up when it suits their agenda to exagerate the success of an american fighter, eg jirov, froch, clinton woods etc :deal

    look how highly the gullable, delusional ward fanboys are now rating their hero after a victory over froch, but why? :huh



    the blueprint to beat froch was already laid down for ward by dirrell and jermain taylor.

    dirrell boxed froch's head off, but because dirrell fought like such a cowardly ***** in nottingham, he didn't get the decision.

    taylor did the same job as ward on froch but tired similarly to ward in the last 2 rounds and ended up losing with 25 seconds left. froch's plodding limitations were already completely exposed.



    what are froch's best wins at 168?

    pts v pascal - pascal achieved nothing at 168

    pts v abraham - abraham is very limited with just a supermid win v 168 punchbag jermain taylor, abraham has been badly schooled and exposed by dirrell and ward.

    pts v johnson - johnson is nothing more than a 168 laughing stock after being schooled at the weight by the likes of kiwanuka, sosa, ottke, vanderpool, branco, sheika etc



    now look at the andre ward fanboys trying to hype him up like the 2nd coming of floyd mayweather for a 115-113 win over a limited plodder like carl froch :nut:nut:lol::lol::lol::rofl::patsch
     
  13. simon850

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  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Leave Joe C out of this!!! Oh, wait... said Bute. :lol:
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Nice. And exactly why Failey is a boxreccer who will never get it.