If Bute does not deserves to fight Ward...then who?

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  1. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward is so good that noone deserves to share the ring with him........
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Exactly the same. Sidious being a prime example.
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I don't give a **** about him fighting in Canada. He fills out arenas - why wouldn't he.

    All i'm saying is that because he's the huge name and because he generates the money, he's not going to lose there. If that 1st Andrade fight had been anywhere else he would have lost that fight,.
     
  4. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Froch would have fight Direll in the state he would have lost!
     
  5. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Hagler coming to the UK to win a title off Alan Minter shows how he's just like Lucian Bute. :patsch
     
  6. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Yes because winning a close decision is really the same as getting a 300 count :clap::clap:
     
  7. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    I'm fine with the Froch fight, makes them more money in the end.

    But to say he 'should beat fighter A or B' is complete bullshat. Bute qualifies for a shot, anyway you look at it.

    Again, it's not like Calzaghe demanded that Kessler fought Lacy or Bika before their superfight. Same goes for Kessler, not asking that Calzaghe beats Beyer or Siaca first.

    This is getting old. Have a read.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17659&more=1

    "THE LONG COUNT"

    "The long count" shouldn't even have taken place! Yet, it did, and it was responsible in great part for the controversy. "The long count" lasted twenty (20) seconds, not 24, as Andrade's Golden Boy Promotions' representative or Nick Charles from Showtime would have us believe. Just watch the video and convince yourselves! After Bute was knocked down, the referee sent Andrade to the neutral corner, picked up the count from the knockdown referee and counted to six (6). Bute was already up by the referee's count of six. He had beaten the count and the fight was over. Because the timekeeper failed to signal the end of the fight, the referee wrongly assumed there was still time left of the three minute period and carried on. Andrade also wrongly assumed there was still time left for him to play a further role in the fight. Having reached the count of six, the referee noticed that Andrade had moved from the neutral corner towards the centre of the ring, trying to gain an unfair advantage by closing the distance between him and his opponent. According to Rule No. 4, if the contestant standing leaves the corner before the count has been completed, the referee shall discontinue the count and order the standing contestant back into the corner. The count will not resume until the standing contestant has returned to the neutral corner. Andrade left his corner before the referee could complete his count. Marlon B. Wright discontinued the count and ordered Andrade back into the corner. He did not resume the count until Andrade had returned to the neutral corner. The referee obeyed the rules thoroughly and completely. "The long count" wasn't long at all. The only person responsible for "the long count" being as long as it was, is Andrade, who left the neutral corner to gain an unfair advantage. Although not seen in the video above, the Canadian PPV transmission showed Andrade almost half way across the ring, when the referee asked him to get back into his neutral corner. The 16,000+ in the arena saw it with their own eyes too! It's undeniable, whatever Andrade himself would have us believe.

    "The long count" is irrelevant to the question of whether Bute was knocked out and to the question whether Andrade was robbed of his chance to finish Bute off, because it occurred after the bout was effectively over. To the extent that it is at all controversial, it only characterises the referee's supposed bias towards Bute. It is not material to the bout or to whether the right man won or not, because it occurred after the end of the fight. Had the timekeeper obeyed the rules and rang the final bell as soon as Bute was up on his feet with his hands clear of the floor, six seconds after the end of the final three minute period, "the long count" would not even have occurred. The fight was over. Bute beat the count. The decision should have gone directly to the judges because no knockout had been scored.
     
  8. Sidious

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    well Ward fought in joakland in front oh his family and close friends and was allowed to headbutt everyone,he cheated Kessler who clearly deserved to win by DQ then he feasted with a clube fighter who fought in Butes undercard to make it to the semifinal,had a brake when everyone else had to fight 3 times in the tournament...then beated a guy coming after 2 loses with only 1 win in the tournament for "the grande finale".i give him credit for Froch win but that's about it.not mutch of a "super6" if you look closer,except Ward,Kessler and Froch the other guys are not even rated in top10smw.And if you study harder Bute has done more than Froch in smw,Froch is a G for his willingness to travel and take big fight,a real warrior but that's about it,he has never beaten a top5 smw,ever.
     
  9. shaunster101

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    :arran
     
  10. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Wow, I wonder how many Canadians Bute is paying to come on here and spread this stuff?
     
  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :bananamaniac:lama:dunnowha::party
     
  12. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    It was a 500 count
     
  13. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :lol::smh
     
  14. Sidious

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    nobody is claiming Bute is #1 at this point.But to come with this kind of nonsense is purely ******ed."Bute has a weeker resume and he doesn't deserve to fight me"..well guess what,so was Ward when fighting Kessler in his backyard with his homie referee..i didn't heard Kessler complain about Wards resumee or that he has no business being in the ring with him.
     
  15. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's because you can't count to 8 :lol: