If Bute does not deserves to fight Ward...then who?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by crosbyshow, Dec 28, 2011.


  1. mdionis

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    Please take out Abraham and Bika from that "list". Ward has faced Kessler and Froch because he was due to (since competing in S6). He might consider the Bute fight as a business to be done in better financial conditions, or he might also have studied Bute's matches resulting in him not being so sure about the eventual fight outcome; the appropriate word would be not really "scared" but "worried". Since we aren't Ward, right now we don't know. We can assume one or the other and know it is our assumption, not a factual truth. The future will tell us whose guess was closer to the truth.

    As said otherwise, the "deserve"/"earn" issue is plain nonsense BS. If fighter A wants to fight fighter B who expressed his willingness to fight A, they find an agreement and fight, regardless of the trash talk crap or ridiculous motivations. If he doesn't want to, he can easily refute and pick a honest real reason or a BS excuse. From my point of view, a honest real reason is better than BS excuses (especially those disrespectful to the potential opponent). Still from my point of view, it is not OK that normal boxing fans take crap BS excuses as factual truth.
    I have nothing against one or two intermediate matches between Bute and Froch or Kessler, they'd make even bigger the purse for the one fight with Ward, but please do not mention again that "deserving" nonsense.
     
  2. Sidious

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    so you decide right there and then to hate the guy forever.he could beat Mike Tyson and you'd still ***** about that count.....
     
  3. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    Don't even hate the guy, actually quite like him and rate him highly as a fighter. His fans are just too ****ing funny - only fans I've seen get so massively butthurt in defending their guy are Klitschko fans. Anyone would think you're his dad the way you carry on here.
     
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  5. van_pelt

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    You're basing your arguments too much on Bute vs. Andrade I. That was an accident and Lucian Bute showed that in the remach. Plus, Bute vs. Andrade I was also a very one-sided match, until Bute's messy 12 round, when he was clearly exhausted.
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    I think we all agree that Bute was helped by the reff in the first match with Andrade. Let's move on and admit that, skillwise, there are two guys in SMW who are above all the rest and those guys are Ward and Bute, in that particular order. Sooner or later Ward will have to fight Bute. We'll see then who and what.

    I've seen plenty of Carl Froch's matches and I can say that there's no way he's better than Bute. He has more experience, but, as far as power, speed, movement, boxing technique, punching etc. are concerned,
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    I don't compare numbers as I let others do that. I just express in words what I see inside the ring. Right now, the most spectacular boxer at 168 is Bute. Not the best, but the most interesting to watch. That may happen because of his weaker opposition, or simply because Lucian Bute just knows damn well how to box. I personally think it's the latter.
     
  6. Sidious

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    this is ages ago.please notice how much hair Bute had back then !
     
  7. drozzy

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    Learn to read, Shaun. :good :lol:
     
  8. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You just admit there that your trolling.

    1- you dont hate the fighter, so you dont have any reason to put all those stuff about him
    2- you think that its funny to tease his fans since they are easy to anger.

    So in fact your trolling, thanks. I tried before to debate with you, but I can now see that I'm loosing my time.
     
  9. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  10. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Against C level bums perhaps. There's no way to say Bute is superior until he beats Froch, which I doubt he does.
     
  11. drozzy

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    ...really now, you do? What kind of credit will Bute get from you if he does beat Froch?!? :lol:
     
  12. Sidious

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    i'd say somewhere betwen 0 and none
     
  13. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    I've already answered this time and again.:hi:
     
  14. van_pelt

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    That's one questionable assumption. Bute's opposition was about the same quality as Froch's.
     
  15. make_the_weight

    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bute deserves a fight with ward more than bika, dirrell(dr said no) and that other flop from the super six

    So ward as a champion was fighting people less deserving than bute so why not unify now?