Trained from a young age. Which trainer??

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    George Benton. Without a doubt in my mind. Actually, Arcel and Brown would be a different dynamic, but also make me an absolute machine.

    When I inevitably have a half-Thai nipper he will be force to train Muay in rural Siam and fight hundreds of times against nails Thai blokes before embarking on a Muangsurin-esque grasp at the upper echelons of international boxing! :yep
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Oh C'mon, mate. Do i need to spell it out for ya?

    Between Panama's special mix and Capetillo's handwrapping skills, i'd never lose a fight (till i was caught). lol
     
  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doc Kearns as a third wheel, and I think you might have the Dream team.
     
  4. maddog12

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    Good point. If the trainer and fighter gets too close there is also a chance the trainer gets too soft on his fighter, like in kessler-ward when kessler was with richard Olson

    :lol: My sarcasm detector wasn't up to date.
     
  5. Tar Baby

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    why?
     
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  7. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    For a serious answer.

    Jack Blackburn for punching technique and offense. Georgie Benton for defense (his saying was win this fight, look good in the next one).
     
  8. maddog12

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    Why george Benton?

    But what if you get a gay boy who would rather paint? :scaredas:
    On a serious note: Whats with the muay thai? why not just boxing from a early age?
     
  9. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    I must admit i started kickboxing early my dad wanted me in a gym getting ready to box and it did help when i got into a boxing gym i picked things up very quickly cos i always knew i wanted to and was going to box more then kickbox. I rarely kicked in kickboxing :lol:. It does help though you feel more comfortable in a gym, working pads etc but maybe i was lucky i had a dad who taught me outside gym but can see where BB is coming from in a way.
     
  10. TBooze

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    The hand-wrapping skills and the unpadded gloves, could have made Slapsie Maxie the new Louis. And if someone did manage to survive three rounds, like you suggest, there is always the little black bottle to boost your stamina.

    As for getting caught, well now a days, I suspect the Commission would pay you a fine, just in case you took them to the cleaners whilst appealing.
     
  11. maddog12

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    Arcel and Brown was durans trainers right?
     
  12. TBooze

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    Arcel was from a period beginning in 72, with Brown assisting.
     
  13. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Georgie was a true teacher, a professor of the highest order. Knew EVERYTHING about the game. His defensive skills teaching is unmatched. Pete Whitaker said Benton tought him everything he knew in how to control the pace of a fight and ring general it up.

    He trained everyone to their strengths and could train any style, he wasn't a one trick pony like Steward or Roach. He tought slickness and craftiness. Everything he did was geared to making his fighter win and not caring about fighting for the crowd. I'm a firm believer that had one of my favourite fighters, Sweet Pea Whitaker not had him in his ear between rounds , peering through those ropes and just that goon and attention ***** Duva, Whitaker wouldn't have been the master he was and would've got drawn into a lot more brawls. We saw what happened when Benton left the camp.

    He was in the Eddie Futch mold, but for me was more of a defensive specialist then Futch. He trained Holyfied, Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor, Rocky Lockridge and many more. He was also one of the most down to earth, quiet and unassuming guys you could wish to meet, which probabily did him little favours sometimes (F you Lou Duva).

    He wasn't a bad fighter himself either.
     
  14. I'd go with Muay Thai because it encourages proper punching and planting the feet, as opposed to tap and run.

    Obvious flaws are squaring up and perhaps being a tad easy to hit, but those can be worked on as you progress.

    The flaws that fighters coming from the Olympics have are ridiculous, pawing with their shots, horrendous footwork.... could go on all night.

    I'd pick Oscar De La Hoya on his pro debut to beat the current Amir Khan, who's supposedly top 3 in his weight class. That's how far ahead the amateur game was back then compared to now.

    By going the Muay Thai route you're cutting that out altogether.

    Look at Quigg, he's only had 20 odd boxing matches in his life, but already looks the dogs compared to lads coming from the Olympics with over 100 amateur fights. There's no talk of him needing to find a ''pro-style'', it's already there.

    It's akin to starting your innings in cricket with 20 on the board and seeing it like a football. It's especially true when you consider the ex-amateurs are hardly ever fighting. They're more part time than amateur boxers ffs.