joe calzaghe: I would have beaten ward

styles make fights. kessler went toe to toe with joe.ward would do what hopkins tryed to do only alot better. joe did not have punching power and joe would not have won the super 6. i pick ward and dirrell over him. i think he would beat froch because of his speed.prime joe would be the 2 or 3rd best sm.
he would not beat wrard with his style.

 

I dont have a problem if people think Ward could take him out. But Dirrell??? How do you see that happen?

 

Exactly what I was thinking :good

 

:rofl

you butthurt americans hating on joe is hilarious

everything ward does....joe does better...joe may not have had power...but no boxer, not one, ever walked through his punches.

 

No, my post amounts to I know more about this (and I'm not just talking about the fights or that video) than many of you clueless ****s on here (including many Brits) so when I see blatant revisionism taking place and fiction being passed of as fact, well, excuse me if I take exception to it and seek to correct it. Hater or or gullible imbecile says, ''Calzaghe was never a hard puncher. That's just a lie you fanboys have created to big your boy up.'' I say, ''Shut the **** up you thick ****, because you clearly haven't got a ****ing clue what you're talking about.''

I've actually followed the careers of Calzaghe and Benn right from the outset (and most of Eubank's too, apart from when he turned pro in the US. I wouldn't be arrogant enough to claim to be an expert on that part of his career, especially considering I didn't have the ''internet'' back then lol). I've also been following the British domestic scene with a keen eye for the last 20 years, been an avid reader of all the British (and most of the American ones for that matter) boxing periodicals throughout that time, and I've also read Calzaghe's autobiography. But hey, I guess you're infinitely more qualified to speak on this than I am, right? lol.

Er, no. The video was created with the sole intention of humiliating Calzaghe and to decieve people into thinking he was a featherfisted slapper with little to no power and to exaggerate the amount of premature stoppages there were that took place, even if it was only by 3 or 4. And the ****** who created it has devoted almost his entire ESB existence to trying to discredit Calzaghe and poison others against him.

Despite his and many other obsessed weirdos considerable efforts to prove to the contary, and the legions of gullible morons eagerness to lap up their lies, the pre injury ravaged 'I've shattered my metacarpals so many times that I can only sit down on my punches a handful (no pun intended) times per fight' Calzaghe was actually very heavy handed. This can be proven very easily if people are willing to try using their eyes and their brains in conjunction with each other.

You sure about that? lol. How long's he been retired now? I can assure you that there's **** loads of bitter agenda-driven ***gots out there who still can't get over the fact that one of their boys didn't capture the white boy's/Euro's or the object of their hate's zero. The level of hate he gets on here, most of the other forums, and Youtube is absolutely insane, as it is with that beady-eyed ****** Floyd.

I accused you of being a hater because I actually read some of your posts about Calzaghe and it didn't take long to realize you had an agenda and were just regurgitating the same ill-informed heavily biased tired old garbage in the same arrogant I think I know it all way the haters do. That's why I have zero interest in debating anything with you.

Calzaghe isn't even my favourite fighter lol. Yes, it annoys me that he gets so much **** on here, as it does with other fighters too. However, the reasons I find this place so annoying are far too numerous and obvious to mention.

Debate? On here? With clowns like you who's knowledge and expertise are far outweighed by your ignorance and arrogance? Are you serious? lol. Like there's any point debating anything on this **** hole. Very few people on here actually listen or are open to other people's arguments.

Now I'm sure you're just itching to get back to your cartoons. Here's one that I'm sure will tickle your fancy no end, ******.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jn9IvrY6ro&feature=related[/ame]

 

lol. Well played, sir.

It's blindingly obviously to anyone with a brain that it's a hatchet job. Unfortunately there's definitely some on here who aren't smart enough to realize when they're being taken for a ride. Of course there's also a fair few who deliberately play dumb in order to antagonize others.

Calzaghe could be very sloppy at times (don't forget he was trained by an aspiring Herbie Hancock for the vast majority of his career who had absolutely zero boxing experience. In fact, most of his father's boxing knowledge and acumen, if not all, was acquired from reading books and watching fight videos. And If you saw the state of the gym he trained in until 2002 (a full 3 years into his reign as champion), you'd be shocked. The gym they moved to after that one was demolished wasn't exactly high tech either. A lot of people overlook these things when it comes to Calzaghe. It's pretty amazing what he went onto achieve all things considered, especially when you take into consideration how badly he was plagued with injuries throughout his career and the effect they had on his ability to punch with full authority from fairly early into his reign as champion.

Here's a snippet from his autobiography about his old gym.

''Nobody would ever have confused it with Emanuel Steward's Kronk Gym in Detroit or the Fifth Street Gym in Miami, where Muhammad Ali trained. Newbridge Amateur Boxing Club was unique and fighters everywhere should thank god for that.

''My old gym was a shack, there is just no other way to describe it. People used to come inside and ask, ''how the hell can a world champion train in a place like this?' Honestly, it was the mangiest little building you could possibly imagine. The ring wasn't even a proper ring, just a carpeted area on the floor, and it was tiny. You could nearly stand in the center of it and and touch all four corners. It wasn't even put up in a safe place. The river ran underneath the floor and the building, which went up in the 1920s and was made from wood and tin, was falling down. The rugby club wanted us out for years but we had nowhere else to train, so we stayed put. Four years ago we were able to buy a new building on a site a mile or two away. The council gave us a grant to renovate the building, which again was situated in an old rugby ground, and we were able to buy all the equipment and a proper boxing ring. Until then, I'd always trained on that carpeted floor, with ropes around it that were held up by broom handles. The ropes were only there for effect. If you fell into them, you almost landed on the floor, which was slippery and dangerous because of all the condensation and moisture. There was no heating, the toilets were bad and there was no showers. Dad had to put down several rolls of square carpet and nail it to the floor to stop us from sliding all about the ring. It must have been terrible for my lungs, training there from the age of nine. Coming out of the gym, I used to cough up all the dust I'd inhaled. The building was so old and the smell inside was something else. It was the pungent smell of leather from the battered old gloves that you get in all boxing gyms and you could also smell, but mixed in with that was an aroma from all the dampness and the wet and the place was so small and run-down that the stench of all those years could not escape. I'm hardly a prima donna but that was no place for anyone to have to spend a lot of time in. When they finally demolished it we were told that we were lucky the floorboards hadn't given way a long time before. They just had to hit it once and the whole place fell, like a pack of cards.

''I was never able to move around the heavy bag, so my footwork had to evolve naturally. It wasn't something I was able to develop in training. I'd clatter into the wall and it's no wonder I picked up elbow injuries and all sorts from tripping over the buckets that had been left to catch the rain that leaked in. The gym I'm in now feels like a palace because I have a proper ring and I'm able to move inside it. I can even move around the bags. But I won a world title training out of that old gym and, for all its faults, there was definitely something about the place.''

SOME, yes. However, not as many as the video would have you believe.

''Every'' thread was an exaggeration on my part.

Maybe. If I can be bothered trashing through it all again. :good

 

It's amazing that these clapslappy ***gots start having to discredit judges and going out of their way to post gay cartoons to try and discredit a poster who thinks Calzaghe wasn't the ****. :rofl

You guys are pathetic. ***gots wasting posts on Slappy's autobiography.

 

This is all you have, every argument that you Cal nut-huggers boil down too is Calzaghe beating a 43 year old man and a Roy Jones that had just come off his first 3 losses in a row, two by brutal stoppage, followed by fighting two bums and a faded career middleweight and this is what you guys use to legitimize Calzaghe? Unbelievable.

I've never heard so many excuses to make people believe a boxer is an ATG. That should tell you something right there. But go ahead and reply with another book quote, or more judges you disagree with, or how Calzaghe beat an old guy and a shot ATG.

 

a 43 year old still kicking arse today...

...you seem also to be forgetting it was clazaghe last two fights too, the way you ****ing inbred american ****s go on you would think calzaghe was 25 at the time

 

:rofl:rofl Look at this fatass boy crying about his hero!

 

Robin Gibb - SOME 8 POST IN 1,5 YEAR.........................ALT

 

It's a fight i would like to see and am unsure of the outcome to be honest. (Dreaming) I like ward and Calzaghe as they are both gifted technically!! I'm pretty sure if ward were to fight Hopkins that would be a good measuring stick as styles make fights and i think using the kessler fight with Joe is to Joe's credit as he went plan B and then dominated as all good champs do where as ward had the plan already and if you like a blueprint from joe as ward studies fights i'm sure.